smallstonefan
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Any 64-bit guide out there?
Hi everyone, I'm building a new Windows 7 64-bit machine and trying to get all of my ducks in a row. I've searched the forums (best I can, that 4 character word limit makes it hard to search for 64) and read what I can. Is there a FAQ on installing/configuring Sonar 8.x on 64-bit Windows 7? I appreciate any guidance you can supply...
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daveny5
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 15:41:25
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There is no mystery to it. You just load the DVD, select install and select 64-bit when it gives you the choice. You can also install the 32-bit version and have both available. Note: Windows puts 64-bit programs in the C:\Program Files folder and 32-bit programs in the C:\Program Files (x86)\ folder.
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 15:42:27
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smallstonefan
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 15:43:10
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Hi Dave, I hope it's as simple as you make it sound. :) Is bitbridge installed automatically or is that something that will have to be addressed separately? When installing plugins, will I have to specify different install folders for 64 bit vs 32 bit (I think I only actually have 32 bit plugins, but I'll figure that out as I re-install them).
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daveny5
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 15:47:49
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Bitbridge is installed automatically. VST plugins you can put anywhere you want as long as you tell Sonar where to scan for them.
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 20:30:43
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Hop in, hang on and enjoy the ride. I would suggest however, if you are not on a laptop to set your power settings to maximum performance.
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 21:10:40
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Hop in, hang on and enjoy the ride. I would suggest however, if you are not on a laptop to set your power settings to maximum performance. My DAW is a Laptop and I set my power settings to maximum performance. I'm always plugged-in when I'm recording anyway. Oh wait... I'm still on 32bit... so, don't mind me... ... (still too afraid to switch )
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 21:38:14
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Oh wait... I'm still on 32bit... so, don't mind me...... (still too afraid to switch) Wuss!
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/21 22:19:21
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 01:43:50
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smallstonefan Hi Dave, I hope it's as simple as you make it sound. :) Is bitbridge installed automatically or is that something that will have to be addressed separately? When installing plugins, will I have to specify different install folders for 64 bit vs 32 bit (I think I only actually have 32 bit plugins, but I'll figure that out as I re-install them). Bit bridge is a part of sonar, it's just installed automatically when installing the x64 version. Two things come to mind to point out: a. Btw, you can have the x86 and the x64 versions installed (many people find this useful) b. One thing people don't understand at first is that there are going to be two program files. One will specifically be labled (x86) and that is where the stuff goes that isn't x64. Once you give sonar the path to which ever folder contains the x86 stuff, sonar will do the rest. Hope that helps
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 02:50:06
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I dont think 64 bit is the way to go at the moment too many flaws and risks involved for not much reward. If you are going to record an orchestra yea i would go for it. But not everything has 64 bit drivers and most plugins still are not written with 64 bit operating system in mind. If you are going to use 4 gig of ram stick with 32 bit if you are going to use more ram then 64 bit. Its as simple as that as far as i can tell. Peace and Love Ben B.CT
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 03:14:01
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Oh man, x64 has been the bomb! (for many of us) All those high ram using plugs....problem solved!
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 03:38:09
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dr.hash I dont think 64 bit is the way to go at the moment too many flaws and risks involved for not much reward. If you are going to record an orchestra yea i would go for it. But not everything has 64 bit drivers and most plugins still are not written with 64 bit operating system in mind. If you are going to use 4 gig of ram stick with 32 bit if you are going to use more ram then 64 bit. Its as simple as that as far as i can tell. Peace and Love Ben B.CT I don't really agree. 64-bit is a lot more mature than people think. Any hardware worth it's salt has a 64-bit driver at this point and there are more and more 64-bit plugs. WIth BitBridge 2.0 I think the positives outweigh the potential pitfalls. That is of course if you actulaly have more than, say, 4GB of RAM (as you point out).
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Searchfinger
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 03:40:20
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Freddie H
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 04:00:24
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] dr.hash I dont think 64 bit is the way to go at the moment too many flaws and risks involved for not much reward. If you are going to record an orchestra yea i would go for it. But not everything has 64 bit drivers and most plugins still are not written with 64 bit operating system in mind. If you are going to use 4 gig of ram stick with 32 bit if you are going to use more ram then 64 bit. Its as simple as that as far as i can tell. Peace and Love Ben B.CT I don't really agree. 64-bit is a lot more mature than people think. Any hardware worth it's salt has a 64-bit driver at this point and there are more and more 64-bit plugs. WIth BitBridge 2.0 I think the positives outweigh the potential pitfalls. That is of course if you actulaly have more than, say, 4GB of RAM (as you point out). +1 Agree with Brandon. Also only one that seem to state that kind of statements are people with very low technological knowledge and users on Pro Tools platform. That is not true either. 90 % of all my plugins are in native 64bit already. Majority of all professional plugins are in x64bit already. Actually is over 355 manufactures and plugins already in native x64bit so you wrong there too. Here you have a list... [link=http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=adv&soft]http://www.kvraudio.com/g...ts&st=adv&soft[]=i&soft[]=e&soft[]=h&soft[]=d&soft[]=w&type[]=0&f[]=0&f[]=au&f[]=dx&f[]=ladspa&f[]=rtas&f[]=vst&linux=1&osx=1&win=1&x64=1&free=1&com=1&un=1&sf=0&receptor=&de=0&sort=1&rpp=100[/link] Today its all waste not to use your full computer potential with a Windows 7 x64bit. Also good luck finding a new computer that not comes with Windows 7 x64bit. DELL, HP anyone just deliver their computers with x64bit OS only and its a reason why. Windows 7 x64bit work better even with any old XP x32bit application and programs (of course not ****ed Pro Tools 8 HD), and OSX then any other x32bit OS out on the market. Regards Freddie
post edited by Freddie H - 2010/07/22 04:06:54
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 04:32:43
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] dr.hash I dont think 64 bit is the way to go at the moment too many flaws and risks involved for not much reward. If you are going to record an orchestra yea i would go for it. But not everything has 64 bit drivers and most plugins still are not written with 64 bit operating system in mind. If you are going to use 4 gig of ram stick with 32 bit if you are going to use more ram then 64 bit. Its as simple as that as far as i can tell. Peace and Love Ben B.CT I don't really agree. 64-bit is a lot more mature than people think. Any hardware worth it's salt has a 64-bit driver at this point and there are more and more 64-bit plugs. WIth BitBridge 2.0 I think the positives outweigh the potential pitfalls. That is of course if you actulaly have more than, say, 4GB of RAM (as you point out). +1 It's been a joy. I love x64, I love being able to use trilian, SD2, kontakt, etc etc with no more ram issues!! Sonar works great in x64
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 07:37:57
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If you don't need to use more than 4GBs of RAM, then upgrading to 64-bit isn't necessary. Most newer software applications will require more RAM (like Samplers) though. As for flaws with 64-bit, I've been using it for over two years now for music and when I first installed it there was some challenges, but it revolved around software vendors needing to make their software run under 64-bit (like Melodyne, Toontracks, etc). I either found third party tools like JBridge or the software vendor created 64-bit solutions. Since then, my DAW has been working great! For me, 64-bit has been well worth it and Cakewalk has done the best job of getting all of these third party plugs to work with their app. I appreciate that. Tom
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Freddie H
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Re:Any 64-bit guide out there?
2010/07/22 10:43:12
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The modern computers and Windows 7x64 systems need at least 4 GB RAM and it will just increase in the future soon we will see 8 GB RAM minimum. Next computer I shop for will have at least 16 GB physical RAM or more installed + virtual Memory. Today I have 8 GB physical RAM + 8GB virtual gives me total 16 GB in use and I use it up almost all already working. Best Regards Freddie
post edited by Freddie H - 2010/07/22 10:45:13
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