silvercn
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Behringer Xenyx 1622
Any opinions out there on this Mixer /usb interface. The reviews I've read are very positive. What I really like is the fact that this is a combo mixer and interface....I would think great for a small home studio -or for a live situation - as opposed to using two pieces now - mixer and interface.
Thanks !!!
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 14:04:33
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The design is a Mackie clone, but the components of the mixer are cheaper made than the mackie components. they're not bad mixers, they're just not the best. they are definitely worth the price you pay for them.
they are definitely better quality made (and better quality components) than the older eurorack or U series. those were basically crap, IMO. these are built with better parts are are better quality built.
as far as the soundcard interface of it - it's not built into the mixer, what they give you is a 2 input USB card that connects to the mains of the mixer. this is a UCA-200 (same product as the separately sold UCA-202). it's 16bit 44100Hz only and sometimes they are difficult to get them to work with sonar (or any other DAW, I'd imagine). some people use them with success, but I'm not impressed with them.
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 14:36:19
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ok - interesting. Their description is not that clear and makes it sound as if the interface is an integral part of the mixer!!! ah ha. So do you think that it would be just as good if not better for me to find a similar mixer withouth the usb, and just route the signal through my current interface??? What I tend to like the most about the features are the built in fx and compressor feature, etc... which my current mixer (Peavy 8) has none of.
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 15:36:29
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So do you think that it would be just as good if not better for me to find a similar mixer withouth the usb, and just route the signal through my current interface???
personally, that's what I would do (and did!). I have a Delta 44 in my computer, and I have a Mackie CR1604 (this is the older version of the 1604) that I use for monitoring and routing. I don't use it for EQ or preamps going in most of the time (I do occassionally if I have someone else in the studio with me) but I use it mainly for monitoring and output. I use the 2nd bus for headphone output and the main bus for the near fields. I currently use rack compression if I want it, but I don't ever EQ going in. that's just the way I work, tho, I know some people do. you could still use the mixer function the way you want and just route the buses or direct outs (if it has them, I'm not sure) to your soundcard and just not use the UCA-200 if you didn't want to.
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silvercn
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 17:14:32
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Thanks for the additional comments on your set up. I checked out the Mackie 820i just a while ago and it seems pretty slick. It does have a built in firewire interface and several nice features. It had a good write up in SOS mag. (Oct. 2009) and works with several DAWs
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 17:23:46
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I would recommend waiting... there are a lot of "New" interfaces and technologies being made and that means... yes you guessed it.. out w the old that I can now get for 75% off retail...
However if I must... the mixer might work half way decently for what you are doing... but #1 those effects you mentioned are truly crap IMO and the mixer will probably last a year as most Berhinger made equipment. It truly is getting what you pay for. have you looked at maybe a used Tascam 1082? You can get one new for like $450 so used might be around the same cost as that mixer...plus then you get a much better quality (Not great but at least above the bar) interface that is made to run a DAW or be a stand alone unit...
Just want you to get your moneys worth...
Have fun
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silvercn
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 17:30:28
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I am in no hurry so will be gathering as much info as possible. I appreciate your comments on this and will take a look at the TASCAM (why not I have a TASCAM interface now and happy with it).
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 17:30:31
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 17:32:25
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Oh my bad.. I didn't know they needed repair... anyway keep searching and good luck
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 18:07:43
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I have a brand new Xenyx 1622FX. E-mail me or leave me a PM if you are interested, I can make you a deal you can't refuse. It has been "collecting dust" and needs a new home. I bought it for a project and then went a different direction. It has been powered on and checked out to see if it works and that's all. I also have a World Tour padded bag for it.
post edited by fireberd - 2010/07/27 18:10:40
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 18:10:59
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"I have a brand new Xenix 1622FX. E-mail me or leave me a PM if you are interested, I can make you a deal you can't refuse. It has been "collecting dust" and needs a new home."
Now you see what I mean by you get what you pay for..... lol
Blow the dust off..... Uhuch.. uhuch... Here you go! Brand new! lol
Seriously that might be a deal too good to pass up though
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/27 19:49:48
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Nothing wrong with it. I bought it for PA but shortly afterward came into a free Peavey XR 600F so the Behringer wasn't needed. (Edited for typos twice - I need a spell checker).
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Re:Behringer Xenyx 1622
2010/07/28 01:45:33
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the mixer will probably last a year as most Berhinger made equipment.
Sorry can't totally agree...... I own the following and all work well if not better than any other product in its class.......and then some...... SNR2000........10+ years old ..........the best piece of inexpensive gear anyone has ever made...........more options , better noise reduction and cleaner audio path than anything within $400.00 V-Amp Pro........7 years old...not even an led out........Best bang for buck guitar modeling made.................period........ V-Ampire 1x12 Guitar amp.................7= years old....heavily played.................again one of the best recording /practice amps.....w/modeling ...dollar for dollar......ever made............ XENYX 2442FX...........Nice little mixer.........feature to feature.........Best signal routing for a home studio on the market.......better mic pre's than any Yamaha,Alesis or HD DAW in the same class...........2 years old still kicking............ 1 pair Euro live 212A.............5 years old.........still cranking...................outlasted both a pair of Yamahas and JBL's TO800 3years young.nice little stomp for $29.00? EQ700 3 years young exceptional little stomp....nicer sounding than either the Boss or Dan Electro stomp EQ's Now ........ I do own some nice gear and some very nice axes......................I'm not a crap king.....but these pieces genuinely perform and have held up well...knock on wood.... 
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"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 12:06:14
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To all who have been keeping up with this discussion. In a description of the Tascam FW 1082 I read, it says "touch-sensitive" moving faders. What really are they referring to about being touch-sensitive?
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 13:03:47
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The 1622FX I mentioned has been sold (from an ad on a different forum).
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 13:13:41
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Touch sensitive has a heat activated sensor to determine if it is a finger or.... not. It is great for recording "Automation" as as soon as the fader senses your finger it will enable to automation you have selected(Like if you are recording in Latch mode.. as soon as you touch the fader it senses and records automation data.
Some are better then others.... The Tascam touch sensitive faders are pretty decent... sometimes I have had engineers operating things in which they try to push the fader from the bottom, not placing the "Finger Print" in the "groove" that was designed to cup your finger tip it doesn't change volume...
It is a great feature IMO
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 14:45:01
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ok wow sounds like a neat feature...thanks for the explanation!!!
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 15:00:19
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I don't want to make it sound like it won't react unless a finger is on the fader... they will react if the faders are moved even if it isn't a finger or you are pushing from say the bottom of the fader... it might be delayed and or abrupt but it will react to all movement. One problem I have had with them is working an outdoor concert in the cold weather. It has a problem feeling fingers that are that cold... but that was once in my 12 years of professional design and engineering experience. However I don't think a cold beer will have that kind of effect.. 
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Continuing the mixer /interface discussion
2010/07/28 15:05:23
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Funny about a cold beer effect!!!! Since we're on the topic of mixers, what about the Yamaha MW series, which have usb connectivity????? Anyone want to weight in on this one???
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Re:Continuing the mixer /interface discussion
2010/07/28 15:18:08
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Not too familiar with it... I think it only sends the stereo bus to the computer (Hence no Individual tracking) but you should research that
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 15:30:42
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Touch sensitive has a heat activated sensor to determine if it is a finger or.... not. No, not heat activated. They're capacitive touch activated.
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 15:34:10
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"Touch sensitive has a heat activated sensor to determine if it is a finger or.... not.
No, not heat activated. They're capacitive touch activated."
This is true but ruins my cold beer joke! They are sensitive to extreme temperature though.
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 16:01:39
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I've owned a Berhinger 1642, which, after three years use, lost a channel at a time and crashed beyond repair and currently own a Mackie 1604 VLZ-Pro and used both for mixdown/monitoring. I currently use a Mackie Big Knob and highly recommend it. It selects imputs and outputs and controls volumes for each. When I got it I heard things I never heard when monitoring through the other two boards.
I own several pieces of Behringer stuff and all are excellent with never a problem except for the 1642. I use the Mackie 1604 for live performance (although we just went to an Allen Heath 24 channel) and for recording multiple inputs.
I don't see the Big Knob in any catologs, so it may not be available.
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Re:"Touch -sensitive faders"
2010/07/28 16:15:45
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"No, not heat activated. They're capacitive touch activated."
We debated this years ago and I went back to my old hypothesis of it using heat.... I was proven wrong back then and fell back into my old way of thinking and have been corrected again...
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