Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get

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2010/07/31 20:07:19 (permalink)

Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get

So I really need to upgrade from the computer I've been using for the past six years.  It was custom built in 2004 for $700 and has an AMD Athlon 2.1 with 1 gig of RAM and XP.  I've recorded five full albums with it and I'm happy with how it's lasted, but I need something better to keep up with the video and audio work I'm doing.   This old girl is definitely slowing down...   I was amazed to browse through a catalog and gasp at what I can get for $700 today... a terabyte hard-drive, 8 gigs of ram, quad-core, etc.  So given about the same amount of money spent ($700-800), I'm fully confident that what I'll end up with will be leaps and bounds beyond what I have now.  But that being said, I really have no idea about what I should be looking for...  I don't want to just grab the first thing I see with good sounding specs, if it's not necessarily going to be a good fit for audio/video work.  I was in a store the other day where a salesman was excitedly showing me these computers with i5 and i7 systems as if I should be oohing and ahhing but I was just nonplussed, because I don't know if that's really what I want.

In any case, I'm looking for some recommendations.  I'll be using Vegas Video 9 and Sonar 8.5 and Adobe Audition 1.5.   I suppose a good graphics card for the video work would be essential, but again, I have no idea what's good as far as that goes.  I'll also be upgrading my audio card, so whatever comes with a system for audio probably isn't important.  I could either have something built, or just buy an existing system if there's something ideal that has a good deal going currently.

Thanks much for your input!

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    perfectprint
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/07/31 21:46:26 (permalink)
    I was in the exact same boat 6 months back. 2.0 Ghz AMD built back in 04 for 700 bucks. 1 GB RAM and XP to boot.

    I stuck with AMD and went the Phenom II 955 route as it was a slightly cheaper build. Excluding case and monitor the cost was -$600. Tack on case, Windows 7 and a new monitor thats another $350.

    The intel I7 build is probably a couple hundred more, but for a faster machine.

    So its up to you. AMD or Intel, build it yourself, store buy, or custom build from an audio guy. Either way you go you are gonna be happy with a much faster system.



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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/01 03:57:35 (permalink)
    I agree with "The Hydrilla" go for the intel chip - I find the AMD chip fans very noisey whereas the Intel standard fan is much quieter.  Don't bother about those fancy chip fans.  I find the Gigabyte x58 Motherboards one of the best around they have a firewire plug as well.  All those young gaming geeks tend to love the X48, x58 machines as they have lots of slots and provision for lots of periferals.

    Definately try to build you own system, its easy.

    There is a new standard called USB3 and is backward compatable with past standards and much faster bus. You don't really need 2 x $1000 video cards, just a mid priced one with lots of video ram to take load away for CPU and system RAM.  Check to see if your programs can utilise multiple processors because more cores does not mean faster works. 

    Buy as much system RAM as possible and check the max amount that the Motherboard can take. Mine takes a max of 8 Gigabytes of RAM - some of the newer versions perhaps more.  Finding 2 x 4 Gigabyte DIMM sticks is a hassle though. Check how many pair or triple slots on board - mine has 4 DIMM slots but can only use 2, for because some ram is DDR2 and some DDR3. From most reports the DDR2 is very capable and a lot cheaper, and in hindsight, good quality #2 is better than cheap #3.

    Windows 32bit has a max headroom or 4 Gigabytes but Windows 64bit is sqillions of RAM limit.  Hard drives have a limited life, and 7 year olds are risky business.  Gigabyte
    Motherboards come with a very good manual and have great online resources.  I built my machine with 4 drives in a RAID array and notice a 50% read / write increase.

    When doing a transfer from old to new, search around for dedicated transfer cable to move across all your files and settings.

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    Jim Roseberry
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/01 10:46:23 (permalink)
    Don't bother about those fancy chip fans.

     
    "Cool" directly translates to "quiet"...
    If you're looking for a quiet machine, you want/need a 3rd party cooler. 
    There are numerous good options ($25 to $65) that are a major improvement over the stock unit.
     
    ie:  With a good 3rd party cooler, you can keep idle temps with an i7-930 down in the 30s (degrees C).
    That's running very cool...  (so fan RPMs can be set/left at the lowest possible speed - read super quiet)

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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/01 11:33:19 (permalink)
    My advice to clients when they ask about buying a new PC is "buy overkill" (more than you think you need). 

    My home built PC is using a Thermatake CPU cooler and the fan "idles" most of the time around 375 RPM.  I have a Q6600 and they generally run around 36 deg C for each core and rarely get above 40.

    I'm using an Antec "ninehundred" case that is sold as a "gamers" case with two front fans, a top fan and a rear fan.  It is quiet and with all the fans,  components run cool including the hard drives that are mounted behind the two front fans.

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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/02 14:53:57 (permalink)
    Always buy high quality computers with latest configuration. The latest computer configurations are :

    1) Processor : Intel P4 Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33 4MB/1333 CPU
    2) Memory : 1GB (2x512MB) DDR2-667 RAM
    3) hard disk drive : 80 GB (SATA)
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/02 16:43:46 (permalink)
    robinmarkk


    Always buy high quality computers with latest configuration. The latest computer configurations are :

    1) Processor : Intel P4 Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33 4MB/1333 CPU
    2) Memory : 1GB (2x512MB) DDR2-667 RAM
    3) hard disk drive : 80 GB (SATA)
    4) 16X DVD+RW SuperMulti SATA
    5) Sound card : Realtek ALC262 integrated high definition audio with internal speaker
    6) Keyboard : PS/2 standard keyboard
    7) Mouse : USB optical scroll mouse

    It this a joke, or are you speaking to us through a time warp from the distant past?

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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/03 07:09:45 (permalink)
    Wow! That is one fast and current technology machine!

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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/03 18:15:13 (permalink)
    I have a feeling robinmarkk is not from around these parts.
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/08/03 19:10:21 (permalink)
    I had to check the date of the thread..
    Hey if you want those specs I've got 3 of them sitting in the closet you can have FREE! I'll toss in and extra 40 gig drive!
    PS2?? is that for Macs? :.

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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/16 14:21:32 (permalink)
    My Dell laptop configuration :

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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/16 21:48:35 (permalink)
    I just did a motherboard, CPU, Memory swap from my Asus P5 Board with an Intel Q9400 2.6Ghz 4GB to an i7 950 3.0Ghz with 6Ghz DDR3 1333 (1066) Gigabyte board and the difference is very noticeable.

    See my sig for details.

    One other thing, I imaged my drive but decided to see if Windows 7 x64 could actually handle this swap live without an install. The only prep I did was remove my fire wire card from Device Manager before shutting down. I left everything the same.

    I couldn't believe it when it actually booted, churned a while and then settled down. I then took a look at device manager, used the CD that came with the board to update the NIC and other stuff, rebooted and bingo it all works perfectly.
    This has saved me hours of re-installing things.
    Windows has finally caught up with Linux, which has been able to do this for years.

    I did tweak the BIOS for:

    HPET off
    C-States Off
    HT On (already on)
    And that CPU power throttle thing (forget the name) disabled.
    That dropped my DPC, which was already very good, to barely appearing on the bar graph.

    I'm very satisfied.



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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/17 13:09:11 (permalink)
    My Acer Aspire 4736Z Laptop Configuration :

    # Intel Pentium mobile processor T4200
    # Supporting Intel 64 architecture
    # Mobile Intel GL40 Express Chipset
    # Dual-channel DDR3 SDRAM support
    # 3GB of DDR3 1066 MHz memory
    # 8x DVD Super Multi Double Layer Optical Drive
    # 14-inch LCD display
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/17 15:15:07 (permalink)
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    My Acer Aspire 4736Z Laptop Configuration :

    # Intel Pentium mobile processor T4200
    # Supporting Intel 64 architecture
    # Mobile Intel GL40 Express Chipset
    # Dual-channel DDR3 SDRAM support
    # 3GB of DDR3 1066 MHz memory
    # 8x DVD Super Multi Double Layer Optical Drive
    # 14-inch LCD display


    Nice piece of kit !!


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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/17 23:50:13 (permalink)
    My Hp G62-140US 15.6-Inch Laptop configuration.

    -1) 2.13GHz Intel Core i3-330 Processor
    -2) 4GB DDR3 System Memory (expandable to 8 GB)
    -3) 320GB Hard Drive (SATA)
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/18 04:27:48 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry



    Don't bother about those fancy chip fans.

     
    "Cool" directly translates to "quiet"...
    If you're looking for a quiet machine, you want/need a 3rd party cooler. 
    There are numerous good options ($25 to $65) that are a major improvement over the stock unit.
     
    ie:  With a good 3rd party cooler, you can keep idle temps with an i7-930 down in the 30s (degrees C).
    That's running very cool...  (so fan RPMs can be set/left at the lowest possible speed - read super quiet)
     
    Jim: what would you reccomend as a good 3rd party cooler? (for i7 920)
    I have the A.L.C eco, and it is too loud and is making a lot of noise (maybe its broken though...)
    Have tried to tweak it though, and it does not help at all (it isnt the fan making all that noise...)


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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2010/11/18 08:40:22 (permalink)
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    Re:Buying new computer soon... no idea what to get 2011/04/14 07:12:26 (permalink)
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    I did tweak the BIOS for:

    HPET off
    C-States Off
    HT On (already on)
    And that CPU power throttle thing (forget the name) disabled.
    That dropped my DPC, which was already very good, to barely appearing on the bar graph.

    I'm very satisfied.

    CPU power throttle thing, is that EIST?
     
    How do you turn of the C-states?

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