Twigman
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Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
I have a few quid which I can drop on my home studio. I currently run 7PE / Reason3 / Battery3 and a few VSTis. I have often hankered after a decent sampler as using Reason's NNXT is a pretty cumbersome way of doing stuff so Kontakt has always been on my wishlist....but I already have Battery3 so find the purchase of Komplete7 hard to swallow as I already have part of it....but Kontakt4 on its own is nearly as dear as Komplete7..........or do I put off my purchase of Komplete and sink the cash on an upgrade to my Sonar7 producer....and save the rest towards Komplete/Kontakt discounted in 10months time? What would you do?
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 10:14:32
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It's too early to tell what will be in Sonar 9, and you have time to decide about Komplete 7, since that doesn't ship for a while anyway. I'd delay the decision for a little while, at least until the feature list of Sonar 9 is released, which can't be too far away based on prior patterns... since you asked. :) However, in the end, it might be a sound palette vs. Sonar 9 tools decision. What's more important to you? The "killer sounds" in Komplete (which will vastly broaden your sound library), or the "killer tools" in Sonar 9 (plus a slight-to-moderate increase in your sound library, probably)?
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 10:29:42
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Really depends what type of music you are making and your ultimate goals for producing, etc. FWIW - I buy the Sonar Upgrades (and have since the 80s ![](http://forum.cakewalk.com/upfiles/smiley/s1.gif) ) since the upgrade costs are always competitively priced and commensurate with typical software maintenance costs. The Sonar built-in/bundled tools plus Kontakt player (v4) has been excellent for my needs. And I've contributed to commercial pop/rock CDs using Sonar - so contrary to talk from "haters" - this product is Pro grade. (The recent vids by Seth Perlstein and Mike Trujillo show power of the latest Sonar version with Session Drummer.)
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 10:33:19
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Buy when stuff is on sale if you're between 2. 8.5 has been cheap for an upgrade and that's the time to buy Sonar 9 or 8.7 or 17.3 depending on its name won't be cheap to start with Likewise Komplete 7 will start at its max and will go cheaper In the end, I suspect you'll buy both, so buy both when they are on sale
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 10:40:59
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If you upgrade SONAR now you'll probably upgrade to 9 shortly. The good news is there isn't that much difference between upgrading one number sequentually or all at once. I think that is true, although if you wait to the end of cycles (like now) you might save a few bucks. If you want/need an ubber sampler to visualize your music, it is hard to go wrong going ahead and getting it. You can record w/ SONAR no matter what number - you can't sample w/ it. As for which one to get and the best deal - that changes like the weather. Pick the best deal you can and be happy and make some music since tomorrow there will be something better. It is like buying the latest computer - tomorrow it ain't the latest and greatest but will still work as well as it did.
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 12:03:04
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Based on prior experience, the NI Komplete releases are usable from the get-go, whereas the Sonar releases are highly problematic (for a significant proportion of users, he qualifies hastily in a vain attempt to ward off the flames). I now defer my Sonar updating until typically the second maintenance point release, which is historically early in the new year. So smooth your cash-flow and go K7 now and S9 in January - the best of both worlds
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 15:17:23
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i just bought Komplete 6 a couple days ago through a Guitar Center deal: $449.99, and it comes with a free upgrade to Komplete 7 (but i managed to sell my Battery 3, Reaktor 5, Massive, Absynth 5, EI 2XT, Guitar Rig Pro for roughly that price) and if you go to NI's website to see what all comes with Komplete 7, it is pretty astounding. but i can't praise Sonar 8.53 x64 enough, so it's a tough call
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 15:48:07
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well if you go for NI komplete sell your battery 3, which is allowed run the trial version of 8.5 if there is one (prolly will be one).. the first thing you'll notice is the engine.. it's not visible, but you do notice the change. as for reason, as you know they are doing an update for 5 free if you buy record (£100- has reason 4 in the box) and you get record 1.5 / reason 5. they have changed NNXT for 5.. so can't say what it's like. as for kontakt.. like me, well forget it .. Komplete is the way to go.. the price is to draw you to buy the lot. what sorta music do you make. when sampling, you use a lot , is tracking more important ? it's LOTS of questions only YOU can answer , much like I have komplete.. Guitar rig 4 , I use as an fx unit.. others use it FAR more for guitars.. and me I use kontakt more... than they would :) NI Komplete is a big outlay, but worth it in the long run (I bought v5 with kore 2) . horses for courses as they say. trial sonar 8.5 at least anyway. I think you PERSONALLY will notice the difference , regardless of what anyone here says
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progtronic
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 17:48:30
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Twigman I have a few quid which I can drop on my home studio. I currently run 7PE / Reason3 / Battery3 and a few VSTis. I have often hankered after a decent sampler as using Reason's NNXT is a pretty cumbersome way of doing stuff so Kontakt has always been on my wishlist....but I already have Battery3 so find the purchase of Komplete7 hard to swallow as I already have part of it....but Kontakt4 on its own is nearly as dear as Komplete7..........or do I put off my purchase of Komplete and sink the cash on an upgrade to my Sonar7 producer....and save the rest towards Komplete/Kontakt discounted in 10months time? What would you do? kontakt is waaaaayyyy more cumbersome than nn-xt. where the nn-xt lays it all out, right there in front of you.. kontakt buries stuff under many pages of mod/edit windows and pulldowns. definitely a huge learning curve if you decide to go that route. that said.. the komplete package is an unbeatable deal and a really great kompliment (see what I did there) to sonar. so ultimately, you'll want both.. eventually.
post edited by progtronic - 2010/08/04 17:49:50
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 18:01:45
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One thing to keep in mind is that Kontact is a sample player not a true sampler - meaning that it doesnt record audio from sources connected to your audio interface. For that you need to check out NI's Mashine / Motu's BPM or Emu's Emulator X 3. All are true samplers but Emu's product doesnt have a MPC pad interface whereas the other 2 do if thats your preference. Mashine has actual MPC style hardware included. I personally gravitate towards Emulator X3 though. Hope this helps! Peace & Blessings
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 18:13:17
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Wait for 9 to make the decision.
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/04 22:38:03
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If you are running 64 bit, 8.5 corrected a lot of bitbridge issues. Of course you will want to wait until mid-September before making any decision.
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Fog
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Re:Upgrade from 7PE to 8.5 (or9) or invest in Komplete7 - how to spend my limited budget?
2010/08/05 00:37:16
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WHYZ One thing to keep in mind is that Kontact is a sample player not a true sampler - meaning that it doesnt record audio from sources connected to your audio interface. For that you need to check out NI's Mashine / Motu's BPM or Emu's Emulator X 3 not many samplers do record , there is no need to these days. emu 3x = end of line , so for that alone I would avoid it. http://www.dv247.com/comp...ve-%C2%A3300%29--50018 NI maschine , is overkill IMHO unless your HEAVILY into beat creation.. don't get me wrong, it's great.. but aimed at the mpc market. MOTU.. try their tech support + the fact they are into mac far more.. the ONLY 2 samplers on pc I would even bother to look at are Kontakt and Yellow Tools .. but they YT is a bit more complex and the fact transporting samples elsewhere is easier as most people I know use kontakt.
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