Independence Pro - Multi Outs in Sonar.

Bump, just incase someone who has seen this logs in.

Jeff Evans


Independence Pro certainly looks like a serious sound generating device. I did not even know about it prior to your post. I have visited the website and it looks cool. I am interested in Kontakt 4 as well. Mainly as it reads many libraries from other samplers like Kurzweil, EMU, Akai, Roland and Yamaha. But I suppose if the Independence library is really good you could probably survive without them.

I would be very intereseted to see how you go solving the problem of multiple outputs as that would also be something I would like to be able to do in terms of production.

I think I am going to have to uninstall and reinstall Independence, but I will wait, as I will shortly add a new hard drive for samples. I will probably not tempt fate and leave the multi outs at the default, which is 8 stereo and 8 mono (beats Kontak's 8 stereo outs)
 
The library is very good but it does not cover all the bases. Electric pianos for example are as weak as the saxaphones are strong. I also have Kontakt and I would say the libraries compliment each other.
 
Mapping your own samples is quick and intuitive, I had only every done this using Vennia to create soundfonts, years ago, but I was making velocity layered instruments in no time. Another good thing is you can use the effects with other VSTi's,. Oragami for example is a useful Inpulse reverb.
 
 
Where Kontakt scores is the amount of third party stuff availabe and ability to read other formats. I have not had much sucess converting soundfonts using the Chicken Systems Independence edition. Kontakt is also ahead on scripting.

Glynn -  I have Inde Pro as well. I haven't tried upping the default outs to more outputs but I did have  a problem reducing them. I think my problem arises from Sonar not keeping track of the outputs if the defaults aren't the same as when a project starts. When ever I change the defaults I get serious routing problems in sonar -  so much so that I often have to completely remove most VSTI's from the Synth rack and basically start over. Very frustrating. I'm using Sonar 5 and maybe the issue is resolved by now but what happens is :  for instance my outputs for Battery 3 will now show its' output signal on some of the routed outputs for Electrik Piano...or Halion players outputs will show up on FM-7... etc etc. It's as though it being driven via a simple hierarchical list instead of outputs routing to prospective synth outputs. So of course all of the mix parameters and effects bins are all screwed up. This happens to most of my multi output synths. I wouldn't have a problem if it just screwed up the changed synth...but it's pervasive and can effect all my VSTi track routings.
    On another note....one thing I really like about INDE Pro is how comprehensive it's mixer section is. I think it blows the doors off of Kontakt and most any other synth I've seen. I use it as a wholesale submixer just for INDE and use it's default 8 stereo and 8 mono outs with room to spare. I often just pull it back to 3 stereo and 3 mono. I'm finding INDE's effects very good sounding myself. Hope they up size the library with some quality Vibes and marimba, Harmonica and some more guitars. The Basses, drums and percussion  and saxes are outstanding. I'm even liking the way they tweaked their Piano, who would of thought of putting a high pass filter @ 300 hz would make that sample so good for a Jazz piano.