Rack mounted guitar efx What would you recomend ?

The Line 6 POD XT Pro (rack mount model) or whatever the newer model is would be a better choice.  The Behringer is a copy of the Line 6 but it's a model or two behind.  I have a POD XT and the Line 6 support for it has been great and with their free software I can save user programs (they call them "tones"), add modify, create etc on the PC via USB.  I think the new model may even have a MIDI I/O. 

I use the POD XT to record direct to the board with my Pedal Steel Guitar.  I have a clean program ("tone") that I have developed for Pedal Steel that I use.  If you want distortion, etc there are plenty of built in programs or you can develop your own.

I've heard some "session" musicians in Nashville have used these direct.

i have yet, to find a modeler that sounds as good as a real amp, or a rack mount effects processor, that sounds as good as hand-selected pedals.

are you just looking to work on demos, or are you serious about recording final product?

Regardless of the Behringer version they are always 1 model or revision behind Line 6.  Line 6's control software, "Pod Farm" software that will work with Sonar, large library of "tones"  and relatively good tech support make Behringer look pretty bad.

jaydon74


This will probably be out of your price range, but I'll throw this option out there.. Have you ever tried the Fractal Audio Axe-FX??
They have the standard version and the Ultra model.. I had one of these about a yr ago and had to part with it due to hard times.  The support is great, free firmware updates, and the forumites are very knowledgeable and friendly.  U can either go direct into your audio interface, mixer, or into a guitar cab and mic it that way.. So many options are at your fingertips..
Definitely give it a look.. Many famous musicians are using these units now (Petrucci, Vai, Dweezil Zappa, etc...)
Here's the link:
http://fractalaudio.com/index.html

And no, i don't work for them.. LOL.. I just know the minute my funds get back where they are supposed to be, I'll be getting the standard model and (2) 1x12 cab's.. :)

Thats a nice bit of kit!

Whats the price of the standard ?

I know it will be out of my price range at the momment but maybe in the future worth me takeing a look at it again :)

Norrie



Thats a nice bit of kit!

Whats the price of the standard ?

I know it will be out of my price range at the momment but maybe in the future worth me takeing a look at it again :)

Hey Norrie..
The standard model is $1500.. The Ultra Model is $2000..
I know that seems steep, but considering all you are getting, the price is not so bad.. :)
Here is a link to the wiki page where you can see all the amp models, cabs, pedals, etc.. that are all included in the axe-fx.. and you can also see what is only in the Ultra model too..

Link:
http://axefxwiki.guitarlo...ex.php?title=Main_Page

The reviews look bad for that device.

http://guitars.musiciansf...s-Processor?sku=480691


Line 6 is good stuff, The guy who built my guitar uses one and it's all he has on stage. Not sure of model but it's a combo amp I think 60 watts.  He plays straight up top 40 and seems to get every song very close to original, I was impressed.
I have played with a few virtual efx gizmos and I give up. The Tone is always way wrong. The delays and stuff are good but why wouldn't they be there are digital. But amp sims just can't cut it with me. I have owned most brands of pedal boards made over the years and for some reason they are not here anymore. Sometime half way through first set my 4 hours of programing at home would just not work live so it would spend rest of the night as a $400 tuner in bypass mode.  Over and over I tried to make it work and finally gave up on them.
So I've got my old rack mount Roland delay unit from 1986 it has 4 footpedal jacks ( pre MIDI)  I use it because it does not suck tone away from my amp like most efxs do.  I sometimes use a MXR envelope filter ( auto wha) I have a Mutron too.
My tone comes from my fingers then, my Semore Duncan PU's then my 25 watt Fender Princeton, then my Celestion V 10 speaker.
I change guitars to get different tones, not amp sims.

I have used a Marshal Pre amp JM1?   and it was good but was built as a tube pre amp with Midi control.
I think a good quality rack mount digital delay unit or the better floor units for time based efxs are the way to go.
For tone, it's your guitar and your amp. You cannot successfully digitize tone.. Unless that IS your tone ( lord help us)

I have a POD XT PRO but ever since i tried the TECH 21 TRI-A.C. i changed my mind.  I only use my XT now for delays and reverbs and other effects and the TRI-A.C. for amp sim.  I'm seriously considering getting a SansAmp PSA.

I am loking to be able to get the same sound inthe studio as I will live Just not got a lot to spend at the momment. 

THEN, if it were ME, i'd wait.
i'd save my money, and find an amplifier that really speaks to the tone in your head.


otherwise, you're wasting your money.


i've heard some good PROS do very well, with the higher model LINE 6 amps live, and Ty Tabor toured with a POD PRO, running thru a couple of huge mesa boogie tube amps into mesa cabs, and that sounded wonderful to me (saw them TWICE with that rig...)

batsbrew

I am loking to be able to get the same sound inthe studio as I will live Just not got a lot to spend at the momment. 

THEN, if it were ME, i'd wait.
i'd save my money, and find an amplifier that really speaks to the tone in your head.


otherwise, you're wasting your money.


i've heard some good PROS do very well, with the higher model LINE 6 amps live, and Ty Tabor toured with a POD PRO, running thru a couple of huge mesa boogie tube amps into mesa cabs, and that sounded wonderful to me (saw them TWICE with that rig...)

Yeah man I know where your comeing from but I wont be able to mic up the amp in the house I have amps etc but I just cant crank them in the house for reording so am looking for a way to do it so I aint recording sounds I wont get again live

This is just a something to get me going untill I buy a really good efx rack Like the gt pro or something along the lines of the fractual axe fx I was talking to Jaydon about earlyer

Basicaly I am looking for somethign chep to get me going for a fe months till some money comes through then I will get something realy good.


Norrie

Hey

Yeah I liked the looks of the vamp pro reviews aswell and thought at £99 why not just go for it if its that bad I could sell it on to some one or let friends use it when they are starting out.

Since it will just be to keep me going for a few months if this one ive orders hasnt showed up in the next couple of days I will think about ordering another one from another company :)

I have spoke to a few guys who have them and they say they are awesome for the price but at £99 you know ? what can you really exspect to get ?

Ive heard people say there better than the pods and Ive heard people say they suck

I guess its each to there own :)

Yeah man the Digitech 1101 looks like a nice bit of kit but I havent got that amount at the momment as ive said above or I would be going for something a lot better than I am at the momment

Cheers guys

Norrie

Norrie.... I never really liked using effects and stuff... a straight cord was all the effect I used live.....

Now, I do have a red kidney bean POD 2  and a VOX AD30 modeling amp.... I used the POD on 99% of my recordings. It's easier, no mic to set up and ready to go any time.  The sound I get is reasonable......as (Bat?) said, it's not a replacement for a live amp... but for me, close enough. Several people through the years have commented in a positive manner about the tone of the guitar on my music, so I guess it's not all that bad.

 I don't play the Vox much. I turn it on every so often to keep the dust burned off the tube in it.

Playing live, I used the Vox in the church until I quit ( another interesting story for another day) .... and I have a Mesa  Studio 22 that I really like for live gigs...however,  I haven't played a live gig in many, many years now....