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Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
I think I need to rephrase my question in simpler terms. Once I have repaired a a project clip in an audio editor (taken from my DAW)- what's the best / easiest way to return it. THanks
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 08:52:08
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 09:10:20
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Simple enough.....but just wondering since in the past, the files that open up in an editor, usually just re-insert themselves back into my DAW as soon as I am done working on the "Tool copy" in the editor: as soon as I hit "Save" in the editor, it does a mixdown and then pops it back into the DAW - but it't not happening in this case?! Thanks
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 10:02:43
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It depends on the editor I'm guessing. I use Wavepad and I have to export from MC4 into it...and if I want to reopen it in MC4, I have to import it back in. I'm curious, what can you do in an editor that you can't do inside the "Sonar Box"? I normally do all my processing and FX and such inside the box, and export it to the wave editor. In the editor is where I trim the count in, trim the silence at the end, run the normalize function and convert it to mp3 or save it as a finished wave. I also can view the wave to see if it's overly compressed.
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 18:11:05
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I can't remember what it's called, but there is a little add-on you can get which allows you to link your wave editor into SONAR. So you get click on a clip, then effectively go 'edit in wave-editor' and it opens your clip in your wave editor of choice, you make modifications, then click save, and it updates the clip in SONAR. Support for this finished in SONAR 6 I think, but I'm pretty sure it still works for later versions. I'll have to have a look when I'm on my DAW and see what it was called and if it still works on 8.5. It's very handy though.
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 18:23:25
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I have it set up as you describe - with the Pyro on my HS Tools menu and yes it does open up the clip in Pyro - but it is not putting the fixed clip back in when I close / save the Pyro session. I guess I am spoiled since when I do this same procedure with a file from CD Architect - it DOES put the repaired / processed clip back into CD-A. In the past when I have used Wave Lab LE it worked this way then...... I am zooming way in on an acoustic guitar clip that has a bad click in it - and taking that out. I guess I could just do that in my DAW but haven't quite figured out how to do precision cuts / silencing like that in HS7..
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 18:26:49
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I suppose I could do it in Sonar - I am trying to take a bad click out of an acoustic guitar track / clip- it just seemed a little easier to zero in on it in Pyro....maybe I don't have the knack of doing that in Sonar.
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 19:08:53
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you can zoom in to the click pretty precisely... however, if you remove a click it causes another click. It is best to zoom way in and split very close before it and after it creating a very tiny clip... then process the clip with REDUCE Audio volume...repeat the volume reduction until the click is lower than the surrounding material and it disappears ..... I find that method leaves no tell tale signs of a drastic edit. Another solution is to record it again using punch in/out.
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 19:21:32
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Good technique - in the short time since you mentioned doing this right in Sonar I taught myself how to zoom way in on the click. - I will try as you suggest - good idea. I know it is important to keep the "splice" at the zero line - but I like your way.
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 19:49:19
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the splice or split, zero's automatically. Just highlight that tiny clip and reduce the volume as needed.... I also use this exact same technique to increase the volume..... in the case of a "pick up word" that is too low..... the same thing using increase volume will do the trick nicely..... sure beats recording it again.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/10/19 19:51:15
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/19 21:44:59
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Re:Getting a clip back and forth from an audio editor?
2010/10/20 07:32:27
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If the clip is monophonic, or you can isolate a monophonic section for editing, you might get some success using V-Vocal. I've done this when I needed to fix one bum note in a lengthy solo, rather than re-record the whole thing.
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