"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock)

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2010/11/10 06:56:36 (permalink)

"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock)

New song is up. I'd love to get your producing/writing feedback on this one, good or bad.
 
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    Scottytunes
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/10 07:07:59 (permalink)
    I like the song, the writing is good. The arrangement seems to fit nicely. The compression/FX are over the top IMO.

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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/10 07:36:48 (permalink)
    The song is good; it knows what it wants to be and gets there very quickly.

    The bgvox are way too far behind. I think I know what you were going for here, but it doesnt work.
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/10 10:18:00 (permalink)
    This might be a style thing, so you may just discount everything I'm about to say. 

    You have a staccato guitar line and mixed drum beat front and back side. Giving you a very bouncy rhythm. Which is cool, it's engaging. But...Your lyrics are trying to keep pace with it and what happens (for me anyway) is that the first time one falls of, I'm lost and I don't what I'm listening to. Which am I following? I think it works in the verse, but my preference would be to break it up in the chorus...you start to here;

    [font="verdana, arial; line-height: normal; font-size: 14px; "]With the music loud ain’t gonna stop for nothing 
    It’s a perfect day it’s a perfect way to remember why 
    It’s you and I 


    but then you have to rush to get the rest of those lyrics in.

    So my opinion would be to cut your lyrics way down. I like the theme, I like some of the word choices. But my opinion would be to try to make the vocal line more melodic and vibrato versus syncopated and staccato. That's just a layering technique that I've learned with music. I think for most of the songs you'll hear today...the the beat is really harsh and definite, than you'll hear a smooth, flowing vocal, versus the singer trying to keep pace with the music. Audioslave and Foo Fighters are perfect examples of this.

    Book end with this; you may have intended to give that feel and I missed it...so don't take what I'm saying to strongly, it's just a technique. It's not how is "has" to be done. I think your song is better than most I hear. Though I have heard a bunch of good ones lately.

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    navelgarden
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/11 00:42:48 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone for your feedback. Getting vocals to sit and sound well in the mix is the part I'm struggling with most. I cheated with this one and just tossed some plug-ins onto some of the tracks to build them up and I know it shows.

    Ruralrocker2010...extra thanks to you for your detailed response. I'm here to learn, and posts/opinions like yours are so appreciated.
     
    Lots to think about. It will all be on my mind when I go back to remix.

     
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/11 03:25:51 (permalink)
    Pretty song.  I suggest doing something with the doubled verse.  Keep the upfront one the same, treat the other with different eq, or verb or pan - you know.  Maybe T-Pain effect (just kiddin -  all you AT haters) 

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    navelgarden
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/11 12:38:42 (permalink)
    Thanks jhaugh. I don't know all the tricks and rules yet, that's the problem. I'll try your suggestions with the verse for sure, because that's the part of the song that stands out as needing the most work to me. I should do a mock version of the song with the T-Pain effect just to freak out my friends. Word. ;)

     
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/11 13:16:34 (permalink)
    I like this groove. First impressions: lose some of the rasp in the acoustic -  thats the EQ range that needs to be pushed on the lead vocal to give it more presence - put the lead vocal up 2-3 db. I like your sound.
     -Paul
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/11 19:30:11 (permalink)
    One guy on another message board pointed out the I should consider doing something about the pick scrub. I'm guessing your suggestion about the EQ range will help. Thank you for the tip. I'll put the lead vocal as well. I heard somewhere that when you turn the volume of a song down slowly, the last thing you should hear before the sound fades out completely is the lead vocal. I tried to remember that with this one, but I'll bring it up a tad more so it stands out above the guitar. Thank you so much, Paul.

     
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/11 19:36:14 (permalink)
    Nice tune. I have to agree about the pick scrubbing being a bit too pronounced. I like the fact that it doesn't sound sterile, though. The solo worked well with the tune and for the most part the vocals seem to sit O.K. in the mix. I like the tone of your guitar!

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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/12 12:39:21 (permalink)
    Thanks, Tap. I did something with the guitar that I learned on the message board here....take two different guitar performances (one take mic'd at the 12th fret, the other mic'd at the bridge), pan one pretty hard to the left and the other pretty hard to the right, and give each it's own separate tone. I just tweaked things until the two tracks came together nicely as one. I also use an SE Relfection Filter behind my mic to cut down on the crappy accoustics here in my room...that was money well spent IMHO if you're just a guy at home recording things in your office or bedroom like me.

     
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    Re:"Take Me On" 2010/11/13 00:08:55 (permalink)
    The recording of the guitar is good. Harmony vocal parts could use some work. Drum is good.
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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/13 12:40:10 (permalink)
    Liked it on the whole, but as has been mentioned the guitar pick sound is a little intrusive. Mix wise, if it were mine I'd be inclined to bring the vox forward and have the drums and guitar closer in relative levels. Just my opinion as a listener.
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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/13 12:49:44 (permalink)
    Very cool song, my only crit would be not to have the right channel acoustic played muted all the way through the song ...a little change up would be better IMPO.


    Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
    for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
    because he knows the time is short.....
    let him who hath understanding.....
    reckon the number of the beast.....
    for it is a human number...
    it`s number is.....
    666

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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/13 23:05:41 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone. I'll change it up a bit...let it build more than it does now...and work on the guitar pick sounds and harmonies. I've had a couple of people on other message boards ask me if I'm playing a detuned guitar for the bass part. I am playing bass, but I've rolled off a lot of the low end because I was finding the mix a little muddy. I actually liked the sound of the bass...so much that I have it fading out by itself at the end of the song...but maybe I took off too much bottom end. I'll play around and see what I can do.

     
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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/14 02:21:59 (permalink)
     You have a nice voice and record it clearly. I was wanting something more in the bass frequency. It's a great song that could be made even better.
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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/14 10:54:39 (permalink)
    Hi Peter,

    Nice song, man.

    Other, more knowledgeable, forum-ites have given you lots to think about...

    Me, I'm just enjoying the tune!



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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/15 09:34:25 (permalink)
    Thanks guys. Make it better is what I plan to do over the next week. I finally wrote a tune that my 14 year old daughter can't stop listening to and singing along with. That point alone makes me extra proud of this tune. And I'm only going to make it better with the comments you all have made here. This place rocks. :)

     
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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/15 10:37:02 (permalink)

    You guys have got to stop all this stuff , writing songs to music that is making me sound bad , this is nice I like it but I too noticed the music was somewhat over the top .
    Nice song , your writing skills I wish I had too , I guess your making me think a little bit about my skills and how I can start improving .

    I don't write enough songs to call myself good but now I'll have to start working on my writing skills .

    You have some good talent , I like your song .

    Radio

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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/15 15:34:30 (permalink)
    I like the song.   Singing is good and i like those guitars.
    Something is buggin' me bout those drums though....can't put my finger on it.   Somehow i think they should be taking up more space...is that nuts????..wider more aggressive....i don't know.
    Song is good and anyone who has a girlfriend that MAKES him do music is someone i'm going to be taking notes from.

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    Re:"Take Me On" (Acoustic Rock) 2010/11/16 21:15:18 (permalink)
    Radio and No How... thank you for the kind words. The drums have been bothering me a little as well. I'm using Superior Drummer 2.0, but I haven't really done any tweaking to customize the sound...just grabbed a pre-set and went for it. I'll add that to the list of things to try when I remix this thing this weekend.

     
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