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WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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I don't know what I doing  wrong Or right with this I load lets say 2 synths ( Roland Groove And Dim Pro)... I have 2 different inputs 1 to my keyboard (Casio 61 keys) & my DR-670 why I can't work both @ the same time
and not just that SON8.5 stop responding most time I' edit its slowing down my process which makes me lose time is there anyone in The Cakewalk Universe that can help me on explain to me in layman's term to get close to what i need or requireing     and thanks in advance
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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 17:39:37 (permalink)
    They should work simultaneusly with no problems, AFAIK.

    You don't tell anything about your routing.
    Are both the hardware USB? Have you tried different ports?

    Do you have the newest Tascam drivers? What driver mode are you using (MME, WDM, ASIO)?

    What have you chosen as track inputs etc?

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 19:49:44 (permalink)
    I don't think it works that way. You should only be able to use one keyboard at a time unless.

    Maybe if you connect things this way.

    Midi device out to your first keyboard midi in
    First keyboard out (set as a thru?) to your other keyboard midi in.
    second keyboard midi out back to your midi device in.

    I'm only guessing here but it seems plausible. Maybe someone else can confirm?    

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 20:31:52 (permalink)
    I think your right, You have to choose a MIDI input, there is no multiple choice. We used to have to use a MIDI merge box.
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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 21:06:26 (permalink)
    The Fw1082 has two sets of MIDI ins and outs, so this should be possible.

    What are the MIDI settings on the keyboard and drum machine? What channel are they transmitting on?

    Do you have both the MIDI inputs selected in Sonar? What channel and port do you have the soft synths set to receive on?



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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 21:18:59 (permalink)
    I'm not at my DAW right now, but if I'm not mistaken, you can choose "All Inputs->Omni" as the input MIDI source which should accept any MIDI inputs attached and setup properly.

    I have multiple input devices and they all talk to my system if "Omni" (or even "NONE" which is omni) is chosen.

    Am I missing something here?


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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 21:28:10 (permalink)
    Indeed, that is what I do too.

    I am wondering if he has changed those settings.

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/15 23:51:46 (permalink)
    Yea, not sure what he is trying to do - inputs to this 2 hardware units I read as outputs from.  He is trying to control two different softsynths from different hardware controllers at once.  In that case, each of the hardware units should be set to a different midi channel and each of the soft synths set to recieve a different channel.  But I'm guessing.

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/16 00:21:34 (permalink)
    Have setup something like this. Ended up buying a separate midi so had one midi device for each piece of hardware. I couldn't make the 2x2 work.

    Probably not the most elegant solution but only cost $40.00 or something.
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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/16 07:32:02 (permalink)
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    WADDUP CAKEWALK FAMILY 
    I don't know what I doing  wrong Or right with this I load lets say 2 synths ( Roland Groove And Dim Pro)... I have 2 different inputs 1 to my keyboard (Casio 61 keys) & my DR-670 why I can't work both @ the same time
    and not just that SON8.5 stop responding most time I' edit its slowing down my process which makes me lose time is there anyone in The Cakewalk Universe that can help me on explain to me in layman's term to get close to what i need or requireing     and thanks in advance
    oh & p.s. I not good with some terms laugh but don't bust my balls plse 


    Could you give more details to what you're trying to do, I could probably help but I don't understand your questions.

    There are 6 midi ports on my computer and I can record six MIDI tracks simultaneously along with 16 to 20 audio tracks.

    Do you want to use your hardware (Casio and DR-670) as playback devices along with softsynth (Dim pro) or as recording devices?

    Please help me help you.

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/16 09:42:17 (permalink)
    If you're trying to send the output from a MIDI keyboard to more than one MIDI track, you have to turn on Input Echo on each track.

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 18:26:04 (permalink)
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    I'm not at my DAW right now, but if I'm not mistaken, you can choose "All Inputs->Omni" as the input MIDI source which should accept any MIDI inputs attached and setup properly.

    I have multiple input devices and they all talk to my system if "Omni" (or even "NONE" which is omni) is chosen.

    Am I missing something here?

    your're missing that I was wondering the 2 programs would work together with separate instruments

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 18:38:43 (permalink)
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    I'm not at my DAW right now, but if I'm not mistaken, you can choose "All Inputs->Omni" as the input MIDI source which should accept any MIDI inputs attached and setup properly.

    I have multiple input devices and they all talk to my system if "Omni" (or even "NONE" which is omni) is chosen.

    Am I missing something here?

    your're missing that I was wondering the 2 programs would work together with separate instruments
    See the response from AT above - two synths/two controllers need seperate midi channels, or better yet seperate ports.  The synths will play to their own tracks. 
    Now, recording the synths live (not just the midi) to Sonar could cause an interesting challenge . . . . . .
     
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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 18:58:13 (permalink)
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    You don't tell anything about your routing.
    Are both the hardware USB? Have you tried different ports?
    Do you have the newest Tascam drivers? What driver mode are you using (MME, WDM, ASIO)?
    What have you chosen as track inputs etc?
    My keyboard is midi thru a M-Audio uno / Dr-670 to the fw-1082in port 1 And yes I did    
    I have the 1.70 driver for fw-1082 / asio    the instrument i going to play eg. keyboard to true piano,beat machine to session drummer 
     

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 19:03:58 (permalink)


    your're missing that I was wondering the 2 programs would work together with separate instruments
    See the response from AT above - two synths/two controllers need seperate midi channels, or better yet seperate ports.  The synths will play to their own tracks. 
    Now, recording the synths live (not just the midi) to Sonar could cause an interesting challenge . . . . . .
     
    Brian
    thats sounds about right  but it also wont play together i was playing the drum machine and had a song from my keyboard looping no sound from keyboard just drum machine thanks too 


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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 19:05:52 (permalink)
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    Yea, not sure what he is trying to do - inputs to this 2 hardware units I read as outputs from.  He is trying to control two different softsynths from different hardware controllers at once.  In that case, each of the hardware units should be set to a different midi channel and each of the soft synths set to recieve a different channel.  But I'm guessing.

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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 20:32:47 (permalink)
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    your're missing that I was wondering the 2 programs would work together with separate instruments
    See the response from AT above - two synths/two controllers need seperate midi channels, or better yet seperate ports.  The synths will play to their own tracks. 
    Now, recording the synths live (not just the midi) to Sonar could cause an interesting challenge . . . . . .
     
    Brian
    thats sounds about right  but it also wont play together i was playing the drum machine and had a song from my keyboard looping no sound from keyboard just drum machine thanks too 
    The keyboard was looping a song? Will that KB put out midi when playing?
    Have you got the synths pointed to active master outs?
     
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    Re:WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! 2010/11/23 20:44:38 (permalink)
    Casio keyboards don't normally output sequenced ( loops)  material. You would have to use the audio outputs to record the built in loops and sequences.
    Just last year someone brought one into the studio and we found that out after reading the manual etc. The MIDI port only outputs live keystrokes.
    Unless something has changed very recently with their products.
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