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awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
this is what it was like...
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 18:41:57
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We're in for a few milimeters of snow here this week, I'm jealous.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 18:42:07
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That's a lot of snow! Has it really been a year since you went skiing there? Wow--time flies! It was a beautiful 70 degrees here today. :-)
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 18:43:37
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HI, We're going to have a really good year here at Moount Hood, too ... it's been raining like crazy and last night we had a whiff of snow, but up in the mountain, it's been rain for 3 to 4 weeks and I'm pretty sure that it is piling up a nice blanket of snow!
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 18:44:35
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Nice. Back when I was in college, we used to do a lot of weekday skiing at Loveland. Back then, lift tickets were $8, and we could go two, sometimes three days a week. By the way, I am certain that the coldest place in the lower 48 is the basin at the top of the #2 lift at Loveland. I also like A-Basin and Breckenridge. One of my best ever days way a midweek day at Breck. There were maybe five other people there, so I pretty much had the mountain to myself. I ran into the same guy a few times, and we would alternately cruise and race down the runs. What a day.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 19:00:06
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alexoosthoek alta has had 107" to date, got a 59" base today.... janet- actually, it's been since april 18th! heheh so, actually 7 months.... i skied at snowbird on mothers day! Moshkiae you've got that el nino thing happening......... RobertB my buddy gets his season pass for loveland, even tho he's closer to breck and copper.....i'd love to ski there some time. actually, i think it gets colder at the top of beech mountain in Boone, North Carolina.... either way, anything under 5 degrees is just too cold for me!! LOL it was 14 at the base yesterday, with 30mph gusts..... what's that wind chill factor?!
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 19:02:18
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Oh yeah...after I wrote that, I wondered if it wasn't this past spring you posted those great pictures. :-)
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 19:33:08
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Short sleeves here... getting colder later this week I hear.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 20:19:33
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batsbrew this is what it was like... Why batsbrew, why do you torture me this way?
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 20:20:01
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batsbrew actually, i think it gets colder at the top of beech mountain in Boone, North Carolina.... either way, anything under 5 degrees is just too cold for me!! LOL it was 14 at the base yesterday, with 30mph gusts..... what's that wind chill factor?! Haha. I don't think any thing in Carolina could touch the cold at 11,000ft. The wind is cresting the continental divide, and howls constantly. With wind chill, it's probably 5-10 on a good day, -5 to -20 most of the time. You just pray the lift doesn't stop after you crest the ridge. As long as you are moving, it's fine. Bitter cold, but it makes for some great snow.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/22 21:29:27
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Record Lowest Temperatures by State State Temp.°F Temp.°C Date Station Elevation Colorado –61 –52 Feb. 1, 1985 Maybell 5,920 N. Carolina –34 –37 Jan. 21, 1985 Mt. Mitchell 6,525 notice the elev! LOL so, the elevation really doesn't come into play as much as the event itself..... believe me, beech is only 5500'... and alta, is at 11,000' and i go there all the time. north carolina was colder.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 07:34:42
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Mount Mitchell gets some horrendous wind speeds during the winter storms.... I'm guessing here but I think the highest wind speed (non-hurricane) recorded there was around 137mph.... Anything below 0 F is too cold for me.... One morning heading to Sugar Mt (Boone, NC) for a day of skiing, the temp clock in town (3500') showed -5F and up the hill the clock at the MT showed -10... I was thinking I would be the only fool on the hill, and how crazy I was for dragging my family out in those temps....... When I got to the lodge, there was hundreds of people there already... the lines were not to long, but it was clear I was not the only "fool" on the hill.... BTW: it finally warmed up to a balmy 15F by the middle of the afternoon. Great skiing all day except for the snow machines which run at Sugar any time, and all day/night when it's cold enough to make snow.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 10:49:13
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oh gosh, i've been up at sugar mountain when it was 15 below plus a 30mph wind chill factor (makes it about -46F) http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/windchill/index.shtml sugar was one of my old haunts when i lived in charlotte nc (1990-2000) hawksnest, beech, sugar, then up to winterpark WV, and the longer trips to Snowshoe.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 11:07:26
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Cool stuff bat. I skied Alta once. I think they invented powder. thanks for the memories:) BTW, Copper Mtn is great.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 11:29:22
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well, i don't know about 'invented' hehehe but utah does have the claim 'greatest snow on earth' it's on my truck's license plate! LOL The Facts Behind the Claim “Greatest Snow on Earth®” It’s called orographics: Winter trade winds push clouds full of moisture east from the Pacific Ocean, across California and Nevada and to Utah. As the clouds move across the desert, the heat bakes out much of their moisture. When the clouds meet Utah’s Rocky Mountains, the remaining moisture rapidly cools and condenses, and precipitation hits our Utah ski resort terrain with a “mother lode” of deep, white powder snow that’s particularly light and dry. There’s another weather element that feeds Utah’s love affair with the white stuff. TV station News 4 Utah’s Chief Meteorologist Dan Pope says, “We have something that no other ski location in the world has - The Great Salt Lake Effect. Often the Great Salt Lake is much warmer than the bitter cold air following a cold front. The lake releases water into the air that then rises into clouds of snow, producing squalls on its eastern flanks. These squalls contain some of the world’s lightest, fluffiest and driest snow ever produced, and it falls in feet – not inches – on our Wasatch Mountains.” As clouds draw moisture up from the Great Salt Lake, they “recycle” themselves for several days in the surrounding mountains. Utah ski enthusiasts often get a “one-two” (or a “three-four”) punch of powder, causing many local employees to call in sick with the “powder flu.” Editor in Chief of Skiing Magazine, Marc Peruzzi , simply stated, “That is why we test fat skis in Utah.”
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 11:57:35
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batsbrew driest snow ever produced, Can someone explain this to me? Isn't snow just frozen water? What am I missing?
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 12:19:00
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Snow is a type of precipitation within the Earth's atmosphere in the form of crystalline water ice, consisting of a multitude of snowflakes that fall from clouds. Since snow is composed of small ice particles, it is a granular material. It has an open and therefore soft structure, unless packed by external pressure. Snowflakes come in a variety of sizes and shapes. Types which fall in the form of a ball due to melting and refreezing, rather than a flake, are known as graupel, with ice pellets and snow grains as examples of graupel. Snowfall amount and its related liquid equivalent precipitation amount are determined using a variety of different rain gauges. water content. New snow commonly has a density of around 8% of water. This means that 33 centimeters (13 in) of snow melts down to 2.5 centimeters (1 in) of water. [39] Cloud temperatures and physical processes in the cloud affect the shape of individual snow crystals. Highly branched or dendritic crystals tend to have more space between the arms of ice that form the snowflake and this snow will therefore have a lower density, often referred to as "dry" snow. Conditions that create columnar or plate-like crystals will have much less air space within the crystal and will therefore be denser and feel "wetter". that's what makes snow 'heavy sierra cement' or 'champaign powder' or 'cold smoke'. wiki is your friend.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 12:20:21
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when we get the lake effect snow, it's typically about 4% water content. it is so frickin' dry, you cannot make a snowball out of it. it's like talcum powder. when you ski on this type of snow, it is mind bending.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 19:33:03
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The only snow we get where I live is horrible brown slush, I'm sure it falls like that.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 19:48:32
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Yeah, "dry" snow is lighter and fluffier. When you're skieing-boarding it's a lot less work to push it around-go through it than wet-heavy snow. Drifting on a sea of forgotten teardrops.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 20:16:25
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I have too much respect for gravity to ever try skiing. Plus the bad knees, ankles, etc. Old sports injuries, you know. Looks like fun, though.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 20:18:18
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My sentiments exactly, Greg. That, and the fact that the one time I got to try it in high school, I never could get off the bunny hill. Oh well.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/23 21:10:15
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Karyn The only snow we get where I live is horrible brown slush, I'm sure it falls like that. I think I tripped over the highest mountain in Lincs, but it may have been a kerb and technically it may even be that part of Lincs, they tried to call Humberside once so that might not even count. I think Eddie the Eagle probably trained on the notorious Lincolnshire slopes, no?... Decent snow would be wasted on us. We only need a couple of inches to paralyse the transport infrastructure for a day or two in order to moan about it for three months after until we get the next flurry in April.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/24 07:22:52
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Are you trying to imply that Lincs is FLAT??!!!1! I'll have you know that all I have to do is look outa my office window and I can see a great big... errr... mmmmmm.... Nope, sorry. That's just a manure heap..
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/24 08:07:38
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Well my closet decent Ski resort (Brianhead, UT) is opening most of their lifts Friday. Time to wipe the dust off the board and gas up the truck.
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Re:awesome skiing at Alta yesterday
2010/11/24 10:59:29
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got a foot of snow in the backyard last night... we had a blizzard last night. A blizzard indeed. Current wind chill at 11,000' is -46F. Really. gusts into the 80s 5-7" of 6% density is being reported overnight storm totals to roughly 40-50" in the upper Cottonwoods, 25-35" in the Park City and Ogden mountains, and about 25" or so above Provo.
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