Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how?

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2010/12/10 00:14:51 (permalink)

Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how?

Anyone know how to do these?
Is there a VST required?
Is it easier with a VST than doing it in Sonar?
I have come across tutorials in Logic and Pro tools on the net which show how this is donw and appear to be very easy to do but nothing on Sonar.

I am using Sonar 8 PE BTW.
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    MarlboroMan23
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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 00:41:20 (permalink)

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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 01:09:36 (permalink)
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    Anyone know how to do these?
    Is there a VST required?
    Is it easier with a VST than doing it in Sonar?
    I have come across tutorials in Logic and Pro tools on the net which show how this is donw and appear to be very easy to do but nothing on Sonar.

    I am using Sonar 8 PE BTW.

    There are certainly some good plugins to help (Effectrix, as just one example) but also V-Vocal, and many other plugins can accomplish lots of tricks.

    It depends on the actual effect you're looking for.




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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 01:14:16 (permalink)
    Try reducing your latency - just kidding.

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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 01:23:35 (permalink)
    bmdaustin


    Try reducing your latency - just kidding.


    That is funny! :)



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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 05:10:18 (permalink)
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    Try the Glitch VST plugin.

    http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/

    http://www.kvraudio.com/db/1904

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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 07:52:49 (permalink)
    Downloaded dblue glitch as it appears to have the effects I want.
    Installed it in to the VSTplugins folder and it shows up in Sonar as an Audio effect.

    Thing is it does nothing.
    I play the audio track and mess about with dblue glitch and nothing happens to the audio track.

    Is there any tutorials out there with sing sonar and dblue glitch?
    I really want to be able to use this VST from what I have seen on youtube when used with Fruity loops.
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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 07:54:36 (permalink)
    SubSample Downloaded dblue glitch as it appears to have the effects I want. Installed it in to the VSTplugins folder and it shows up in Sonar as an Audio effect. Thing is it does nothing. I play the audio track and mess about with dblue glitch and nothing happens to the audio track. Is there any tutorials out there with sing sonar and dblue glitch? I really want to be able to use this VST from what I have seen on youtube when used with Fruity loops.
    You have to configure it as an instrument (it works as an effect but for some reason the tempo sync etc doesn't work unless it's configured as an instrument).
     
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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? dblue Glitch [Mostly Solved] 2010/12/10 17:53:22 (permalink)
    I couldn't even get this to work as an audio effect.

    Nope I have not configured it as an instrument nor could I see anywhere it saying that it needs to be in the tutorial PDF I downloaded.

    I'll do that and reply with what happens.

    It appears this VST is important to what I want to achieve ...just having troubles making it work.

    EDIT:-
    I got it working and it's wicked!
    I added it in a stereo bus and linked the stereo bus to the audio finding out it still did nothing.
    So I messed around with the knobs finding out the master filter knobs etc was working and to my luck also has nice highpass and low pass filters which I was also looking for.
    But still could not seem to get the other effects to work.
    So I looked at the grey bar full of blocks with the letter r and filled it up with the retrigger effect.
    Played the audio track again finding it did nothing.
    So I looked around again and clicked on the enable transport button....then brrrr-r-r-r-r-z-zzzz-tt-t-tt-tt!
    Sweet!

    Just have to look it into it a bit more to see if I can press a MIDI key to trigger say retrigger on a certain word in realtime while recording.
    I'm pretty sure it is possible as it was something I actually noticed in the dblue glitch PDF.

    SO far this looks like the on VST which has a majority of the effects I need for the sound I am wanting to achieve and it's free!

    post edited by SubSample - 2010/12/10 18:21:44
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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 18:11:23 (permalink)
    SubSample


    I couldn't even get this to work as an audio effect.

    Nope I have not configured it as an instrument nor could I see anywhere it saying that it needs to be in the tutorial PDF I downloaded.

    I'll do that and reply with what happens.

    It appears this VST is important to what I want to achieve ...just having troubles making it work.


    FWIW I tried that one too - and had trouble with it as well.  But, you get what you pay as they say.

    There are some other tricks you could use but take time  - like using volume envelopes with a square wav shape deployed in 8ths 16ths, etc.

    OR you could sample the vocal and chop it up with a slicing sampler as another approach.




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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2010/12/10 18:58:53 (permalink)
    I was playing around with Glitch a bit and that while it doesn't seem to work in the track FX bin, it does work in a bus FX bin. So I've got an audio track playing a song and I can get some pretty weird sounds by using a send to the bus with Glitch in it. Don't forget to click the Enable/Disable Transport button. If it says Disable Transport then it is disabled.


    Ah... looks like SubSample  beat me to it. Nevermind.
    post edited by Chappel - 2010/12/10 19:01:04
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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2011/02/05 17:17:19 (permalink)
    How can I configure Glitch as an instrument? Somehow it synced fine with Sonar 8.5 but now with X1 it just does not work anymore
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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2011/02/05 17:34:27 (permalink)
    Leibregime


    How can I configure Glitch as an instrument? Somehow it synced fine with Sonar 8.5 but now with X1 it just does not work anymore


    Go into the PluginManager, find it, change it's properties to "Configure as Synth"

    That's how to do it for any FX plugin that needs MIDI triggering.

    THEN you insert it into the FX bin as a "synth" (strange I know, but that''s the way to do it).

    So you right click in the FX bin, add it as usual, but it's under Audio/Synth not FX in the listing.



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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2011/02/08 01:53:18 (permalink)
    Yoiks!!
    Check Out Izotope's "Stutterer Edit"  (Might be Stutter Edit?)
    Wowzers. 

    Each preset includes numerous FX, all combined into different settings/sounds and each
    combination triggered by a different key on your keyboard (the black and white one)

    You configure this plug as a synth as well, open it in an FX bin, create a MIDI track and assign it's out to the plug.

    Each combination of effects and settings is applied for the length of time you hold down the corresponding key.

    Guaranteed to rob you of hours and hours of sleep just playin' around.

    Remember when we used to write songs??

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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2011/02/26 02:36:09 (permalink)
    Just thought I'd update to let anyone else know if they are really wanting to get this stutter thing going. Rob nailed it on the head.

    Stutter Edit.

    I went ahead and tried out the demo and then had to get it.

    Although the instructions on how to make it work in Sonar only let a newb know who to make it work with audio tracks but not other midi tracks.

    I found it placed in a stereo bus then add midi track and add stutter edit from the stereo bus to the out, and then insert the stereo bus into the midi track, then use the stutter edit midi track it will work.
    It's a nice piece of software, and for what I am doing it is worth the $

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    Re:Vocal Stutter and glitching effect in Sonar how? 2011/07/05 08:54:45 (permalink)
    If you're not doing it manually, I think that these are the better three.

    Sugar Bytes Artillery 2.1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7otqtUnQk&feature=player_embedded

    The newest from Sugar Bytes - Turnado
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYt7bUH5gO4&feature=player_embedded

    iZotope - Stutter Edit Gesture Demo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHcXv84psqI&feature=player_embedded

    I am hoping that Sonar X1 would put something together (Stutter Glitching Midi effect type Plug ) for us to use, integrated in Cakewalk Sonar X1.
    Lets request it.
    Peace & blessings.

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