Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit

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2010/12/17 21:27:06 (permalink)

Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit

Anybody heard of a patch to get the fantom editor working in win7 64 bit?? The hotfix didn't do it..
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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/22 00:50:58 (permalink)
    Anyone???


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/23 01:02:34 (permalink)
    Bueller..Anyone seen bueller...anyone????...LOL.


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/26 07:52:50 (permalink)
    stratrat1


    Bueller..Anyone seen bueller...anyone????...LOL.

    He is with him´s girlfriend....


    I am trying to use the Fantom for over an year by now... It will not work in Windows 7 64, even with a 32 bit version of Sonar... If it was a concern for Cakewalk, specially take in account that this is a important part of the VS 700 solution and, even further, keeping in mind the idea of the 64 bit end-to-end pionnering research and reliability of Cakewalk (wich now is, in fact, Roland), and all this **** that they have claimed (the microsoft certification and so on), as I was saying, if this was a concern for them, should be solved a long time ago.


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/26 09:58:21 (permalink)
    LOL... It works with my 64bit machine but you have to insert the sounds manually.. That takes away from smoother work flow.. I haven't even went thru the sounds yet because of the pain in the butt task of changing them.


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/26 10:26:02 (permalink)
    You have to insert the sounds manually in 32 bit also. Did I miss something?

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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/27 10:01:30 (permalink)
    Your fantom editor software is working right??..What I mean is you have to manually select the sound patches thru the instrument track.. The virtual fantom editor doesn't work in 64bit YET
    post edited by stratrat1 - 2010/12/27 10:49:14


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/27 20:48:37 (permalink)
    I actually have the Fantom editor working in 64-bit X1. 

    Whenever I load the Fantom VS in the synth rack it currently acts like its forgotten its MIDI settings. After I click OK for the error boxes. I then have to go to the [Setup-->Setup MIDI devices] page in the Fantom editor and re-select the Fantom VS-700 in each of the four boxes. Once I do that I am able to select patches from the editor window. Unfortunately, it appears that this sequence of steps has to be done each time the Fantom is loaded. It then basically works like it did under 32-bit SONAR 8.5.3.

    Having to manually click 4-5 times to change patches on the Fantom VS synth has been mentioned in this forum multiple times by myself and others. So far no one at Cakewalk has ever acknowledged the issue or stated that it may be addressed. 

    There are some downloadable instrument definitions on the Cakewalk support site for the Fantom VS which will allow you to change the patches from inside of SONAR's track view. They work well and seem to be complete, However, please be aware that although the patches will change the sounds on the synth they will not update the editor's interface so the editor will then be out of sync with the Fantom synth hardware.

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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2010/12/27 21:36:50 (permalink)
    There are some downloadable instrument definitions on the Cakewalk support site for the Fantom VS which will allow you to change the patches from inside of SONAR's track view. They work well and seem to be complete, However, please be aware that although the patches will change the sounds on the synth they will not update the editor's interface so the editor will then be out of sync with the Fantom synth hardware.

     
    You mean that the Fantom patchs you enter in Sonar channels that play will not match what is listed in the slot of each channel in the Fantom editor? It's like a local control overide  that occurs with keyboard synths as well. Since the Fantom is a hardware synth but the keyboard is hooked into Sonar, the sound local control is sending over rides the sound in the Fantom because the Fantom hardware is not set to receive and update the listing in the Fantom GUI. Because the commands-control codes from the keyboard don't match those that exist between the Fantom hardware and Fantom software. I've found that, if you enter a patch in the Fantom editor, enter the same patch in the channel in Sonar, have local control turned off on your Midi device, the sounds will be the same. You would think that a change in one would update the other between Sonar and the Hardware-Software GUI of the Fantom Editor, that the hardware would exhibit local control and update the graphical display in the software interface, but you have to match settings in Sonar and the Fantom Editor software-hardware interface manually. I hope that made sense. 

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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2011/01/13 23:27:49 (permalink)
    Still no word from Seth or Ryan on fixing the Fantom Editor in win7 64 bit... Wow whats up with that?? Surely they could atleast tell us something...


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2011/01/14 08:10:17 (permalink)
    The only thing I can say about it is that I told the same question to Ryan (the ARX editor suffer from the same issues obviously, bitbridge is really not tightly integratred...) and he told me that he was personnaly stressing the developpers to have the editor to work in 64 bits.  It was 1 or 2 month ago.  So looks like it's not been forgotten....

    Maybe it's just me but even if the console is tightly integrated with Sonar, there's absolutely no trace of the fantom on the board.... which is an integral part of the system.  Maybe a dedicated menu or section to control the synth would have been much less pain to work with, especially selecting presets as eBlue said.  I know it is impossible to add knob or whatever and an add-on would make the system somewhat huge (and expensive....) but a "fantom mode", just like the plugin mode, could switch the console to a Fantom controller and make sense for it to be a part of this "integrated" system.

    Any thoughts?


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2011/01/14 17:29:46 (permalink)
    Im sure you can control it from the surface as you would any plug in......But until they actually get the editor working I can't be sure if this is an acurate statement


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    Re:Fantom editor for windows 7 64bit 2011/01/14 18:08:47 (permalink)
    Yeah you're probably right, but controlling the synth as a "whatever" plugin (eg. via ACT) don't  really mirror the importance the Fantom VS as to the system.

    If we were able to switch to, let's call it "Fantom mode" and then bank through it's internal mixer, use the Console faders, edit FX and navigate with ease through presets, all in 64 bits... that would make the Fantom VS a VERY powerful synth that would justify using it instead of more straight forward soft synth like Dimention pro and also justify the presence of the console itself to improve the Fantom experience as well.

    In fact, I'm just telling that the Fantom VS have been just "thrown in" and integration have been severely overlooked... too bad cause with more control it's greatness could be achieved in seconds....
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