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2010/12/23 23:40:36 (permalink)

Nudging not working

Hi,

I'm sure this is a simple fix, but I can't seem to nudge clips. The number pad keys don't work, and the Process > Nudge buttons are grayed out. However, when I use the number pad, there is this cursor in the track that moves. Kind of hard to explain, but it looks like a pipe with the "move" cursor next to it.

Please help ... Thanks! :o)

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/23 23:48:31 (permalink)
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    Hi,

    I'm sure this is a simple fix, but I can't seem to nudge clips. The number pad keys don't work, and the Process > Nudge buttons are grayed out. However, when I use the number pad, there is this cursor in the track that moves. Kind of hard to explain, but it looks like a pipe with the "move" cursor next to it.

    Please help ... Thanks! :o)


    You need to make sure Num Lock key is on for nudging. If it's off curser moves from widget to widget.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/23 23:52:13 (permalink)
    Thanks, but the NumLock key is on.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/23 23:56:06 (permalink)
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    Thanks, but the NumLock key is on.


    What kind of keyboard is it (brand, etc.)? Do you have Sonar 8.5? Does it work there?

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 00:05:51 (permalink)
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    KeeblerElf


    Thanks, but the NumLock key is on.

    Oh  yeah, also maybe try to reassign one or two of those keys to a different function in keybindings and see if the keys work in that case. Then you'll at least know it's not something flaky with your keyboard.



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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 00:06:09 (permalink)
    It's a Microsoft Comfort Curve keyboard. Nudging works fine in v. 8.5.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 00:10:56 (permalink)
    You know that X1 did away with the Ctrl key for this, right? Just hit the num keys without Ctrl.
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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 00:15:25 (permalink)
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    You know that X1 did away with the Ctrl key for this, right? Just hit the num keys without Ctrl.


    Right, but he said his nudge menu items are grayed out too. I wonder if his keybindings got hosed somehow.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 00:20:30 (permalink)
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    brundlefly


    You know that X1 did away with the Ctrl key for this, right? Just hit the num keys without Ctrl.

    Right, but he said his nudge menu items are grayed out too. I wonder if his keybindings got hosed somehow.
     
    Yeah, that's weird. Only things I can think of are:
     
    1. No clip selected
    2. Clip position locked.
     
     


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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 00:27:07 (permalink)
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    Yeah, that's weird. Only things I can think of are:
     
    1. No clip selected
    2. Clip position locked.
     
     
    Yeah, I figured I probably shouldn't bring up the No clip selected thing.



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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 20:31:50 (permalink)
    All right, I uploaded an image to show you what I'm looking at: http://i1213.photobucket....lerelf3/Untitled-1.jpg

    I highlighted the clip (which is indeed selected and not locked) and that symbol to the right of it. If I press the 8 key, the symbol goes up the tracks. 2 takes it down. Some of the other number keys change the symbol to a magnifying glass, or what looks like a volume symbol, but no dice with moving the clip. Now, when I go to Process > Nudge, the options are not grayed out anymore. I can click on any of the options, and it DOES nudge the clip. The keyboard shortcuts simply don't work, which is a huge time waster.

    Any ideas?

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 20:35:20 (permalink)
    I also just checked my key bindings and they look in order. All the number keys are mapped to the correct function.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:07:29 (permalink)
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    All right, I uploaded an image to show you what I'm looking at: http://i1213.photobucket....lerelf3/Untitled-1.jpg

    I highlighted the clip (which is indeed selected and not locked) and that symbol to the right of it. If I press the 8 key, the symbol goes up the tracks. 2 takes it down. Some of the other number keys change the symbol to a magnifying glass, or what looks like a volume symbol, but no dice with moving the clip. Now, when I go to Process > Nudge, the options are not grayed out anymore. I can click on any of the options, and it DOES nudge the clip. The keyboard shortcuts simply don't work, which is a huge time waster.

    Any ideas?
    I don't think that's a symbol. I think it's a really short clip (otherwise it wouldn't move up tracks when you press 8). Zoom the track view in as far as you can and look at it again. I can make a 32nd note sized clip exactly like that.



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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:13:56 (permalink)
    Thanks, but no, it's not a clip. I zoomed in pretty far: http://i1213.photobucket....relf3/Untitled-1-1.jpg I can't select, nor delete it.

    It's some sort of Sonar cursor. Has no one else seen this? I'm thinking I have a tool turned on that's bringing up this cursor. I don't know what it is. Cakewalk guys? Anybody?
    post edited by KeeblerElf - 2010/12/24 21:16:03

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:17:11 (permalink)
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    Thanks, but no, it's not a clip. I zoomed in pretty far: http://i1213.photobucket....relf3/Untitled-1-1.jpg I can't select, nor delete it.

    It's some sort of Sonar cursor. Has no one else seen this? I'm thinking I have a tool turned on that's bringing up this cursor. I don't know what it is. Cakewalk guys? Anybody?


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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:17:57 (permalink)
    Sorry. Fixed! :o)

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:18:50 (permalink)
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    KeeblerElf


    Thanks, but no, it's not a clip. I zoomed in pretty far: http://i1213.photobucket....relf3/Untitled-1-1.jpg I can't select, nor delete it.

    It's some sort of Sonar cursor. Has no one else seen this? I'm thinking I have a tool turned on that's bringing up this cursor. I don't know what it is. Cakewalk guys? Anybody?


    Image link not working.


    Never mind link is working now.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:36:49 (permalink)
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    Thanks, but no, it's not a clip. I zoomed in pretty far: http://i1213.photobucket....relf3/Untitled-1-1.jpg I can't select, nor delete it.

    It's some sort of Sonar cursor. Has no one else seen this? I'm thinking I have a tool turned on that's bringing up this cursor. I don't know what it is. Cakewalk guys? Anybody?


    Yeah, I don't know. I can still make a clip that's 20 ticks long that looks exactly like that when I'm zoomed in as far as I can go. And I can't really select it either. If I marquee select it, it also selects a regular sized clip I have next to it and selects the timeline all the way to the beginning of the project. Plus the short clip doesn't even show up in the event list.

    But I just figured out that if I marquee select the tiny clip and it also selects the larger clip, I can control-click on the larger clip to deselect it, and that leaves the tiny clip selected alone and I can hit delete key to get rid of it. I really have a feeling that's what you have there, but I've been wrong before.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:37:46 (permalink)
    Aim Assist perhaps?

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 21:58:30 (permalink)
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    Aim Assist perhaps?


    Except doesn't the aim assist line extend from top to bottom of the entire track view? His line looks like it only extends one track.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:03:07 (permalink)
    Thanks guys, but that's not it. I created a new track and then moved the "cursor" there. I selected everything in the track, hit delete, and nothing. The weird thing is, if I select another clip (midi or audio) in a different track, then hit a num key, the clip becomes deselected and the damn cursor in the other track moves.

    By the way, when I open my project, I can't see that cursor. It shows up when I press a key on the num pad.

    :(


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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:11:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby groovymisty 2016/08/26 05:09:32
    OK, I figured it out.

    When I select a clip and hit a num key the cursor shows up. By mistake I hit 0 and the cursor disappeared. Now I can nudge with the num pad. I feel pretty stupid, but I guess I shouldn't. It doesn't exactly make sense.

    Anyway, I hope this helps someone else who may encounter this.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:17:06 (permalink)
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    Thanks guys, but that's not it. I created a new track and then moved the "cursor" there. I selected everything in the track, hit delete, and nothing. The weird thing is, if I select another clip (midi or audio) in a different track, then hit a num key, the clip becomes deselected and the damn cursor in the other track moves.

    By the way, when I open my project, I can't see that cursor. It shows up when I press a key on the num pad.

    :(


    Gave it my best shot. At least I learned something about really tiny clips in the process.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:25:31 (permalink)
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    OK, I figured it out.

    When I select a clip and hit a num key the cursor shows up. By mistake I hit 0 and the cursor disappeared. Now I can nudge with the num pad. I feel pretty stupid, but I guess I shouldn't. It doesn't exactly make sense.

    Anyway, I hope this helps someone else who may encounter this.


    Congrats. I wonder what Num Pad 0 is supposed to do. That same line and move-cursor shows up when I press it. Maybe it's an accessibility thing.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:30:52 (permalink)
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    OK, I figured it out.

    When I select a clip and hit a num key the cursor shows up. By mistake I hit 0 and the cursor disappeared. Now I can nudge with the num pad. I feel pretty stupid, but I guess I shouldn't. It doesn't exactly make sense.

    Anyway, I hope this helps someone else who may encounter this.


    Congrats. I wonder what Num Pad 0 is supposed to do. That same line and move-cursor shows up when I press it. Maybe it's an accessibility thing.


    Ah, it's Navigate Mode: http://www.jsonar.org/dru...keyboard-navigate-mode

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:37:18 (permalink)
    Thanks for the research. I couldn't find it anywhere.

    Navigate Mode is highly irritating! :D

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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:39:44 (permalink)
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    Navigate Mode is highly irritating! :D

    Indeed


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    Re:Nudging not working 2010/12/24 22:41:17 (permalink)
    That's there for accessibility as well as for allowing editing to be done via the V-Studio 700 Control Surface.

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    Re:Nudging not working 2016/11/04 13:34:49 (permalink)
    6 years later and this thread helped me solve a long-time conundrum. (why didn't I search sooner?)
     
    Thanks Keebler, et al!

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    Re:Nudging not working 2016/11/05 20:38:17 (permalink)
    i posted this question a few months back but got no answer... thing is, the number pad nudge worked on midi notes but not audio clips, so I thought it was not meant for nudging clips... I'll have to try this now. 

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