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V-Studio 700 Presales questions

Hi there,
 
'I am new to this forum and apart from an Edirol FA-66 didn't have much interaction with Cakewalk/Roland so far. I am eventually planning to change this
 
I am seriously toying with the idea of getting the V-Studio 700, i.e the full monty of Sonar, V700C and V700R. I did some research and I am not new to the subject (Cubase and Studio One User, mainly working ITB). I have some questions and would appreciate answers. Thanks in advance!
 
DAW:
I am on W7 64 bit. Are there any known issues/showstoppers with the V-Studio and W7/64bit?
 
I am working with Cubase 5.5 and Studio One Pro. I am interested in Sonar (especially x1!), but I will continue to work with a variety of Sequencers for different tasks. Any feedback with using the V700 Studio with Cubase or Studio One ?
 
V700R:
any info on latencies?
quality of the audio unit in comparison with e.g. RME or other high-value AUs?
 
Fantom VS:
what hw-model ist this actually and which specs are reduced in comparison to the hw-equivalent?
Is it possible to use the Fantom plug-in in third party DAWs? What about 64bit support?
Are there any other known plans from Roland regarding VSTis ?
 
Sonar X1: I've read that there are issues with the mappings with the V700C. Will this fully be addressed with an V700c update? When?
 
Finally: how is the overall experience regarding workflow, quality, value for money and last but not least - support ?
 
many thanks! 
 
 
 
 
 
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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/26 14:58:48 (permalink)
    I got a similar response when I asked very similar questions.

    After a lot of research, I chose to go with the VS 700R.  Unfortunately, I didn't do enough to know the monitor outputs can only be controlled by the VS 700C.  It's not the end of the world for me- as I may consider an outboard D/A device (Mytek) anyway.  I am having some performance issues that I've yet to resolve.  Hopefully, I can get those straightened up so I can hear this thing and determine whether or not I'll keep it.

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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/26 15:11:06 (permalink)
    Hello there :D

    Glad to see someone else thinking of makeing the jump !

    I i will try and answer some of your questions for you I moved to Sonar after buying a full protools set up I sent it all back and got a VS 700 set up. I warn you I am not the most advanced VS700 User here if you need info lets hope scot jumps in on this one ( I am Sure he will)

    Ok so here we go.....

    Daw - There are no show stopers that I have come across from what I am aware Sonar were the first to go 64 Bit

    I have had no problems and Have 12 gb of ram in my system useing things like superior drummer running huge kits with no problems!

    I doubt you will find anything that is a show stopper.

    VS 700R - I am not on my system and am siting with family at the momment on Mixing day OOPS I meen Boxing day ;)

    I am Runing 7.2 ms round trip with no latency and some rather big projects and you can see my computer specs below in my sig.

    I will get you the rest of the specs buffers etc tomorow when I get back to the DAW. ( unless someone else jumps in by then )

    Fantom - The Fantom from hat I kno is not just 64bit But it works in bit bridge and takes up none of your ram power etc so you can use it and it works great ( I dont use a lot of synths and only use it when some one I know needs it) FOr the rest of thr info on this you might be better sending cake a email or I am sure Scot again or some one wil let you know :)

    Sonar X1 - I havent u upgraded yet I will be at the end of January when the box versions are available in my area

    The Bakers at cakewalk are working on the X1 patch for the Vs 700c as said by seth from cakewalk he said we should hope to see it at the begining of the year I think around fen time was hoped :)

    With that said though I havent heard of any one haveing any major problems useing there VS 700 C with X1 just things like the channel strip etc are not controled from it as yet but they will be.

    This is my opinion I Love Sonar like I said I moved from pro tools so I did a lot of searching before I decided to land here and it was the best move I could have made I am one happy Norrie!

    The VS 700 is not cheep I will add that BUT you get what you pay for and that is one kick ass system for me it was worth every penny

    The Full VS set up plus sonar provides the best possible workflow for Sonar and It realy kicks ass!

    There are lots of Videos on you tube for you to check out on both SOnar and the VS 700

    I would also say go to a shop and have a demo so you can get your hands on it!

    I cant imagine going from haveing a VS-700 system to useing Sonar on anything else it really is the best out there in my eyes

    As for support !!!! The Tec Support both Cakewalk and Roland Provide is second to none! You will be hard to find any one with anything bad to say about them they are the best I have come across more than helpfull and will go out of there way to help.

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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/26 16:38:26 (permalink)
     
    Hey Norrie,
     
    thanks for taking the time to answer so thoroughly and enthusiastically - on Boxing Day!
    It all sounds good but as you say yourself: it is not the cheapest package!
    But after having spent lots of cash on all sort of mediocre solutions I am now leaning towards an investment that will give me a professional setup for some time. I've narrowed choices down to SSL Nucleus or V-Studio 700. Apples and pears, I know...well, perhaps not totally!
     
    I'd like to hear more about the V-console in combination with third-party DAWs. I am totally aware that integration won't be as tight as with Sonar but I think it is becoming more and more a reality that people work with various DAWs.
    Anyone using it with e.g. Cubase?
     
    Also, does the Fantom plug-in work with third-party DAWs?
     
    thanks!
     
     
     
     
    Norrie


    Hello there :D

    Glad to see someone else thinking of makeing the jump !

    I i will try and answer some of your questions for you I moved to Sonar after buying a full protools set up I sent it all back and got a VS 700 set up. I warn you I am not the most advanced VS700 User here if you need info lets hope scot jumps in on this one ( I am Sure he will)

    Ok so here we go.....

    Daw - There are no show stopers that I have come across from what I am aware Sonar were the first to go 64 Bit

    I have had no problems and Have 12 gb of ram in my system useing things like superior drummer running huge kits with no problems!

    I doubt you will find anything that is a show stopper.

    VS 700R - I am not on my system and am siting with family at the momment on Mixing day OOPS I meen Boxing day ;)

    I am Runing 7.2 ms round trip with no latency and some rather big projects and you can see my computer specs below in my sig.

    I will get you the rest of the specs buffers etc tomorow when I get back to the DAW. ( unless someone else jumps in by then )

    Fantom - The Fantom from hat I kno is not just 64bit But it works in bit bridge and takes up none of your ram power etc so you can use it and it works great ( I dont use a lot of synths and only use it when some one I know needs it) FOr the rest of thr info on this you might be better sending cake a email or I am sure Scot again or some one wil let you know :)

    Sonar X1 - I havent u upgraded yet I will be at the end of January when the box versions are available in my area

    The Bakers at cakewalk are working on the X1 patch for the Vs 700c as said by seth from cakewalk he said we should hope to see it at the begining of the year I think around fen time was hoped :)

    With that said though I havent heard of any one haveing any major problems useing there VS 700 C with X1 just things like the channel strip etc are not controled from it as yet but they will be.

    This is my opinion I Love Sonar like I said I moved from pro tools so I did a lot of searching before I decided to land here and it was the best move I could have made I am one happy Norrie!

    The VS 700 is not cheep I will add that BUT you get what you pay for and that is one kick ass system for me it was worth every penny

    The Full VS set up plus sonar provides the best possible workflow for Sonar and It realy kicks ass!

    There are lots of Videos on you tube for you to check out on both SOnar and the VS 700

    I would also say go to a shop and have a demo so you can get your hands on it!

    I cant imagine going from haveing a VS-700 system to useing Sonar on anything else it really is the best out there in my eyes

    As for support !!!! The Tec Support both Cakewalk and Roland Provide is second to none! You will be hard to find any one with anything bad to say about them they are the best I have come across more than helpfull and will go out of there way to help.

    Norrie


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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/26 18:06:49 (permalink)
    Hi Again!

    I looked at the Necleus recently in SOS and from what I remember it cost more or around the same as the VS-700

    As for the VS -700 working with other Daws yes it will I was reading a post resently about a guy who was going to be useing his for protools 9 aswell.

    If your main Daw is going to be Sonar then the only choice would be to use the VS-700 if you have the funds

    I was in the same boat as you I had a Digi 003 protools * and was sick of errors and bugs and incopatable computer parts etc etc

    I looked into it and took the plunge to Sonar and bought the VS 700 system outright Ive never looked back but like you say it some times is needed to load another DAw even just to get files off that some ones sent you tht you then want to work with in Sonar.

    I have thought about that option myself and it can be done

    As for the Fantom I cant comment about useing it on 3rd party but would be interesting to know sorry :(

    Try tec support or your local Cakewalk / Roland rep

    I might be in my local city tomorow I will ask If I am for you

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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/27 07:50:56 (permalink)
    The Nucleus looks great but for tight Sonar integration it doesn't present as the winning option IMO compared to the 700C. The 700C has some great dedicated buttons etc that make it excellent for work flow.

    Latency as Norrie says is a non-event really. I've had better return trip numbers with different outboard (MOTU for example) but the 700 is fine. The 700R pre amps too are also very clean and crisp. You can dial them neutral too and use any exotic stuff you might have plus the monitoring options are varied and multiple and the metering is also very usable.

    Under W7 64bit it is a dream machine BUT if you don't need all the extra RAM benefits and want to use Fantom to it's full potential, stay 32bit. Hopefully this is only short time with respect to Fantom as it has not got full 64bit support sadly. You can use it, but prolly won't bother IMO, whereas under 32bit, it's simpler as an option due to full 32bit integration.

    Not sure how you will go with using the 700C under other platforms unless you use a Mackie mode. Should be fine but if your time on the 700C is 50/50 with Sonar, maybe a generic surface may be a better option. Having said that, once you are up to speed with Sonar, you may elect to do 90% of your projects with it in which case the 700C is a no-brainer.

    Happy decision making.

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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/27 11:22:20 (permalink)
    Thanks! It is clear that Sonar integration is without comparison, but it is good to hear that Mackie mode is an option for other DAWs. I am a long time Cubase user, so switching is not an easy decision. On the other hand: workflow-wise Cubase sadly feels like a Year 2005 application - and X1 really looks very promising. 
     
    Not having 64bit support for Fantom is dissapointing! I hope this will be addressed asap as well as X1 mappings for the V700C ! In fact, these two things are what's holding me back currently. As PreSales questions are explicitly wanted in this forum some statement from Cakewalk on these issues would be helpful. Apologies if this has been raised and answered before! 
     
    Anyone ?
     
     
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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/27 21:38:01 (permalink)
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    Not having 64bit support for Fantom is dissapointing! I hope this will be addressed asap as well as X1 mappings for the V700C ! In fact, these two things are what's holding me back currently. As PreSales questions are explicitly wanted in this forum some statement from Cakewalk on these issues would be helpful. Apologies if this has been raised and answered before! 
     
    Anyone ?
     
     
    Hi, I've had my VS-700 for almost a year now, and I must confess that the Fantom VS synth is easily the most disappointing and frustrating feature in the V-studio product line. In addition to it just plain being poorly implemented, it has received zero improvements since its initial release almost two years ago. Although the Fantom sound is there, the software that comes with it is garbage and seems like it was created over a weekend by someone that just didn't give a crap. The net effect is sort of like trying to watch a big screen TV through a keyhole.


    Here are the major issues in a nutshell:


    • Atrocious patch selection
    • No communication with SONAR, eg. No ACT, patch change updates, etc
    • Broken host sync
    • Forgets it MIDI settings in SONAR X1 (64-bit)
    • Only one audio output for all sounds
    • No native 64-bit support
    • Incompatible with JBridge (32-bit->64-bit VST wrapper)
    • No updates in almost two years
    • No compatibility with Roland Fantom-series sounds
    • No new sound libraries from Cakewalk, Roland or third parties.



    There are many, many pure software synths out there that just blow the Fantom VS out of the water, especially in usability. Omnisphere, Alchemy, Largo and even Dimension Pro and Rapture are much less frustrating to use.


    I would have to say that if the Fantom VS is a major selling point for you...save your money.


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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/27 23:42:38 (permalink)
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    Hi, I've had my VS-700 for almost a year now, and I must confess that the Fantom VS synth is easily the most disappointing and frustrating feature in the V-studio product line. In addition to it just plain being poorly implemented, it has received zero improvements since its initial release almost two years ago. Although the Fantom sound is there, the software that comes with it is garbage and seems like it was created over a weekend by someone that just didn't give a crap. The net effect is sort of like trying to watch a big screen TV through a keyhole.


    Here are the major issues in a nutshell:


    • Atrocious patch selection
    • No communication with SONAR, eg. No ACT, patch change updates, etc
    • Broken host sync
    • Forgets it MIDI settings in SONAR X1 (64-bit)
    • Only one audio output for all sounds
    • No native 64-bit support
    • Incompatible with JBridge (32-bit->64-bit VST wrapper)
    • No updates in almost two years
    • No compatibility with Roland Fantom-series sounds
    • No new sound libraries from Cakewalk, Roland or third parties.



    There are many, many pure software synths out there that just blow the Fantom VS out of the water, especially in usability. Omnisphere, Alchemy, Largo and even Dimension Pro and Rapture are much less frustrating to use.


    I would have to say that if the Fantom VS is a major selling point for you...save your money.


    e.B
    Hm...to me this is a biggie as without proper Fantom integration the package is less appealing. It is the expectation of tight integration of all components - including Fantom 64bit integration and exact X1 mappings- that raised my interest for the V Studio 700 ! I will watch this topic over the next couple of weeks. If there is no outlook for updates that address these issues I am afraid I will lean towards a competitive solution.
     
    Thanks again!
     
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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/28 06:21:39 (permalink)
    Yeah +1 for the above have to say... I'm not a big synth guy by any means but thought the Fantom may have been the start of something... unfortunately this was wrong. Dim Pro as eBlue says is a LOT less to deal with and I use it a lot which is disappointing when you have this supposed mega hardware synth sitting in your shiny new bells and whistles pricey interface and you can't really use it effectively.. at least without it hampering your work flow to the point you want to throw bricks at your own dog.

    Not a deal breaker for me but certainly a surprising and underwhelming disappointment in the 64bit world we hear promoted all the time in 'this' domain. +1 also eBlue re the software... what a shock.   ...looks beyond tired and not what I expected to see at all from the hype I'd read about this synth.... what's with that?

    FT99 as for the X1 integration, I'm sure we are all expecting some respectable updates on this... if not, I for one will seriously need to consider a change of platforms, which will be reluctant but potentially justifiable here.. I 'think' at this stage anyway. That being said, I would however be quite staggered if Cake/Roland do not address this with the respect it demands hence this 'mood'.

    Sonar with the 700 platform is the best option still right now IMHO if Windows platforms are your preferred choice. What happens going forward determines a lot for many as the major competition is at a better competitive price point now in this country (Ozzieland).

    Here's to some very pleasing and rewarding updates from Cake in the near future!

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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/28 10:14:44 (permalink)
    I'm sure the X1 issues will be addressed ..especially the integration problems with the pro channel... Those are a simple patch for the gurus at cake..... I have stated in other post that the only heartbreak I had with the 700 is monitoring.. If you have a system strong enough to use input echo then its no issue...I'm running as many separate monitor mixes as I need thru the input echo.... So that is not a problem for me...but they should have hard wired to make a separate monitor mixes outside of the daw.... The only bad design in my book.. Surely they will eventually fix the Fantom editor to work in win7 64..... I would hope so since on own two of them...LOL ..I'm not a major synth guy either...but It was a portion of price of the units that I paid for ... You CAN USE the fantom in windows 7 64 but its a bit of a pain in the butt to work around....but...still usable..
    I also was foaming at the mouth over the SSL Nucleus but it doesn't come with its own audio interface other than the two built in channels.. The 700 i/o has eight chennels of conversion in both directions......The integration of the console to sonar 8.5 is amazing... The main thing I was after was prestine audio conversions.... The converters and pre amps in the 700R are awesome to my ears..The bugs I have had to deal with are small in numbers..
    FT99 If you have other converters..I think I read you have a myteck.. I know that those converters are high end and highly thought of... If you have enough pres to do what you need...This will be a hard choice... Like I stated before I have no idea whats making them drag their feet to get the fantom editor working in win7 64... The fantom itself can be manipulated and used without the editor but with it it would be a major work flow improvement..... I love my 700...wouldn't trade it for nothing
    Good Luck on your decision
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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/28 23:57:28 (permalink)
    I'm not a big synth guy by any means but thought the Fantom may have been the start of something... unfortunately this was wrong. Dim Pro as eBlue says is a LOT less to deal with and I use it a lot which is disappointing when you have this supposed mega hardware synth sitting in your shiny new bells and whistles pricey interface

     
    Hey, go with you know I guess.

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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/29 02:47:10 (permalink)
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    I also was foaming at the mouth over the SSL Nucleus but it doesn't come with its own audio interface other than the two built in channels.. The 700 i/o has eight chennels of conversion in both directions......The integration of the console to sonar 8.5 is amazing... The main thing I was after was prestine audio conversions.... The converters and pre amps in the 700R are awesome to my ears..The bugs I have had to deal with are small in numbers..
    FT99 If you have other converters..I think I read you have a myteck.. I know that those converters are high end and highly thought of... If you have enough pres to do what you need...This will be a hard choice... Like I stated before I have no idea whats making them drag their feet to get the fantom editor working in win7 64... The fantom itself can be manipulated and used without the editor but with it it would be a major work flow improvement..... I love my 700...wouldn't trade it for nothing
    Good Luck on your decision

       
     
    Only having two channels with the Nucleus is in deed a bit odd. It is oviously meant to be for ITB use only - adding some voice track or guitar track here and there. So with gear you definitely need an additional AU...
     
    I need to understand this: is it the editor which causes problem with the Fantom or is it the VST as such? In other words, can you effortlessly use the Fantom's 1200+ patches in Sonar 64bit and 32bit while it is "only" the editing/sound-design which causes headaches ?
     
    thanks!
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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/30 16:40:50 (permalink)
    FT99


    stratrat1


    I also was foaming at the mouth over the SSL Nucleus but it doesn't come with its own audio interface other than the two built in channels.. The 700 i/o has eight chennels of conversion in both directions......The integration of the console to sonar 8.5 is amazing... The main thing I was after was prestine audio conversions.... The converters and pre amps in the 700R are awesome to my ears..The bugs I have had to deal with are small in numbers..
    FT99 If you have other converters..I think I read you have a myteck.. I know that those converters are high end and highly thought of... If you have enough pres to do what you need...This will be a hard choice... Like I stated before I have no idea whats making them drag their feet to get the fantom editor working in win7 64... The fantom itself can be manipulated and used without the editor but with it it would be a major work flow improvement..... I love my 700...wouldn't trade it for nothing
    Good Luck on your decision

       
     
    Only having two channels with the Nucleus is in deed a bit odd. It is oviously meant to be for ITB use only - adding some voice track or guitar track here and there. So with gear you definitely need an additional AU...
     
    I need to understand this: is it the editor which causes problem with the Fantom or is it the VST as such? In other words, can you effortlessly use the Fantom's 1200+ patches in Sonar 64bit and 32bit while it is "only" the editing/sound-design which causes headaches ?
     
    thanks!
     
    Ok, just to let you know: I went to my local musicstore today and got a Yamaha XS90 and a RME Fireface... Dramatic change of plan? Spontaneous gearlust? Pure madness? Well some of this for sure! But in essence: my focus is making music. For this I need things to work, ITB and OTB. But I also had a look at the V-700C today. What a beauty!! Damn, I still want it...! As a (still) prospect customer I can only say: get the tight integration with all components and 64bit issues sorted asap and I will get it!
     
    Thanks for your feedback and your thoughts. This forum is a good place!
    Happy new Year!
     
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    Re:V-Studio 700 Presales questions 2010/12/31 00:24:56 (permalink)
    I need to understand this: is it the editor which causes problem with the Fantom or is it the VST as such? In other words, can you effortlessly use the Fantom's 1200+ patches in Sonar 64bit and 32bit while it is "only" the editing/sound-design which causes headaches ?

     
    I'd have to say it a local control issue. A multifaceted one. If you enter the the patches in Sonar via the ins. defs. and expect the editor to update visually it won't. If you match the sounds in Sonar with what you enter in the editor it will be the same sounds. If you have a keyboard synth with local control the sounds from the synth will play without updating the visual indicator in the editor or in Sonar. I have even found that the sounds from a keyboard synth with local control will alter the sounds the patchs usually make in some ways. Duration, slight pitch variations, attack, sustain, decay rates. The best way for a clean Fantom patch sound is to enter no instruments-patchs in Sonar and use no local control on your keyboard synth or a straight midi controller.

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