BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me

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2010/12/27 12:59:21 (permalink)

BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me

Hello friends

I've been away from the forums for a couple of months now.

Two or three months ago, I was really struggling with getting BFD2 to run with SONAR 8.5


Many of you, in particular, my pal purlington, tried to help me.


I spent many hours each weekend, trying out the things you suggested, and making no progress.  I became very frustrated, and with the limits of time and the amount of stress it was causing me - I just GAVE UP.

I stopped work on the song that needed drums.  I've pushed aside any track needing drums.



But the truth is, I really want BFD2 to WORK in SONAR.  Even if it has to be standalone and import, that would be fine - but I cannot even make THAT work correctly.

Strangely, in SONAR 4, under Windows XP, I could run BFD in Standalone; export 16 track audio; import that audio into SONAR, and have the most beautiful drum sounds imaginable.

If I could even get back to that state, now that I am running SONAR 8.5 under Windows 7 64 bit, I would be forever in your debt if you can help me.


Here is where I am at.

1) At no time, have I ever really got BFD to work as a plug-in of SONAR.  I did have a basic understanding that you have to do a custom mapping, because the default BFD2 mixer maps them all to one channel, and I spent a lot of time setting up custom maps to ensure that the drum kit was mapped to various stereo and mono tracks in SONAR.  But...I could not get it to RECORD.  It doesn't; wouldn't; didn't record.

2) In desperation, after weeks of sheer frustration, after trying many suggestions ranging from the sensible to the bizarre, I reached the conclusion that I needed to strip things back.

3) So I uninstalled BFD2 from both of my machines (both reasonably powerful machines running Win 7 64-bit) and CAREFULLY re-installed it, adding in each update, testing it each time, so I would have a "clean install".

4) Then I tried the simplest thing of all - a 2 minute long groove pattern that I set up in BFD2, I tried to output it to multitrack audio, with a view to reverting to my "old" way of doing things as I'd done back in 2009 in SONAR 4.

5) The tracks export fine, except, the cymbals are choked all to hell, and sound horrible.

6) I had THOUGHT there was a fix for the cymbal choking problem, which from memory, was to set the "OFFLINE" to "OFFLINE" - which I did, but, the cymbals choke off horrible in every test.


7) If we could get it to produce a decent drum track with viable CYMBALS in standalone, I would then consider re-approaching the plug-in version


So - everything is good.  My SONAR 8.5 installs both run fine, no problems. EVERY other soft synth I have, runs fine, no problem.  It's ONLY BFD2 that DOES NOT WORK in plug-in mode (for me)


I appeal to you once again then, how can we solve the cymbal choking problem, and, are there any advances in the technology of using BFD2 within SONAR as a plug-in?



Thank you in advance, I very, very much appreciate your help past and present.

happy holidays!


dave


BTW - every time I try to log onto this forum, I never can.  it does not recognise my email address, or my password, or something.  I was forced to create another account this time, which is either my second or third.  So because I seem to have great dificulty logging back on to the forum, may I ask that anyone who replies to the above, please COPY my personal email as well: davieblint@gmail.com - that way, I will get it sooner, and then I can try to log on and respond.

THANKS AGAIN !


:-)   d.

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    twaddle
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    Re:BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me 2013/02/05 05:39:21 (permalink)
    Hi Dave

    Just discovered this post and have emailed you at the address you provided. 
    Strange that no one has responded but in case my email doesn't get to you I thought I'd respond here too.
    Have you made any progress with getting BFD2 to work as a plug in?

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    Re:BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me 2013/02/05 06:06:27 (permalink)
    Yeah, this one passed me by as well.

    Update please. Between us, I'm willing to bet that Steve & myself can get it sorted.



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    Re:BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me 2013/02/05 11:44:26 (permalink)
    The POST DATE IS 2010. 

    The late time this guy posted I answered his question politely informing him that Sonar 8.5 will not have updates anymore. ,, If you want feature requests then you need to follow the upgrade path. He came back with a very rude reply?? 
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2726892

    I didn't reply because my policy here is not to engage in any negative battles. 
    Funny I was ragged on for being a rich dude who follows the upgrade path blindly which is of course not true. All he had to do was look at my signature and see I too have not upgraded.. Oh well. 
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2013/02/05 11:57:11

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    Re:BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me 2013/02/05 12:05:10 (permalink)
    Cactus Music


    The POST DATE IS 2010. 

    The late time this guy posted I answered his question politely informing him that Sonar 8.5 will not have updates anymore. ,, If you want feature requests then you need to follow the upgrade path. He came back with a very rude reply?? 
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2726892

    I didn't reply because my policy here is not to engage in any negative battles. 
    Funny I was ragged on for being a rich dude who follows the upgrade path blindly which is of course not true. All he had to do was look at my signature and see I too have not upgraded.. Oh well. 

    Bloody hell, thanks Cactus, I sent him a private message too, wonder what/if I'll get in response.


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    Re:BFD2 and SONAR - still not working together for me 2013/02/05 14:38:57 (permalink)
    I hope you worded it in a VERY friendly tone! :) 

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