I can't seem to convert midi to audio

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2010/12/28 07:40:50 (permalink)

I can't seem to convert midi to audio

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I have set up the Sonar LE programme correctly and I can't seem to convert it, I went through all the instructions and it bounces the midi  to audio that I have made but it doesn't come up on the next track....I am totally confused.
 
 
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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/28 16:33:27 (permalink)
    Would you mind giving a little details about what you're doing?

    What is producing the sound for the MIDI?

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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/28 19:13:56 (permalink)
    I am working from the edirol UA-25EX
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/28 20:38:48 (permalink)
    Hmmm, I think we need more details.  What exactly are you trying to do and what exactly are you doing?

    When you have your MIDI & synth tracks set up there's not much reason to bounce it to audio (uses less processor power but burns up more disk space).

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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 05:31:39 (permalink)
    Okay, here's the thing I have been trying to bounce a part of a verse to audio. The thing is the bar at the bottom that tells you how many of a percentage it has transfered to audio comes up. But it comes very quickly and then it disappears, so the track I set it to doesn't show up an audio track version of the midi track I had previously. I don't know what else to say. 
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 06:35:03 (permalink)
    Your Edirol is a soundcard, right? A soundcard can not turn MIDI into audio.

    As I asked: What is producing the sound for the MIDI? MIDI is only playing instructions, it has no sound. To convert MIDI to audio, there has to be a soft synth or a hardware synth that actually creates the sounds to be bounced.

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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 10:46:52 (permalink)
    I have a Yamaha PSR - 313 Keyboad that is producing the sound.
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 12:54:53 (permalink)
    Kalle was on the right track.
    It sounds like you're set up is directing the MIDI instructions back to the Yamaha and it's converting that to audio.

    If you want to get your Yamaha's exact sound then you'll have to
    1) Run an audio line form the Yamaha to the PC
    2) Create an audio track, set the input to the audio input, and arm it to record
    3) Press 'R' to record; the MIDI will be sent to the Yamaha, which will play back and record onto the audio track

    OR, you could insert a Soft Synth (not sure what comes with LE but look under 'Insert' and redirect the MIDI toward that.

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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 14:02:03 (permalink)
    HEY!! We have lift off it was that Kalle and jhughs thank you for your help, much appreciated.
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 15:12:26 (permalink)
    Great glad to hear it.

    Hats off to Kalle because he figured out the question behind the question.
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2010/12/29 16:51:21 (permalink)
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2011/06/22 13:25:56 (permalink)
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    Your Edirol is a soundcard, right? A soundcard can not turn MIDI into audio.

    As I asked: What is producing the sound for the MIDI? MIDI is only playing instructions, it has no sound. To convert MIDI to audio, there has to be a soft synth or a hardware synth that actually creates the sounds to be bounced.

    hi there, i only visited this forum once before, and spotted your comment today.  my soundcard is a UX1 line6. i have nothing but the latter into which i plug a microphone, or a bass. i mainly use accoustic guitar. i tried every suggestion i found on the web trying to turn a combination of 1 drum track - a midi groove clip from Groove Monkey- and a couple of audio tracks - guitars- into an mp3 or wav file.  all tracks were exported into audio except the drums.  you say 'a sound card cannot turn MIDI into audio'.  i know midi is not audio.  my question is: what is the difference between a groove clip and a softsynth?  if one can't record a groove clip, what the hell is the point of them? any help would be appreciated.
     
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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2011/06/22 18:42:48 (permalink)
    Soft synth is a software instrument that plays the MIDI-commands in audible form. A groove clip is a recorded piece of material in SONAR. You record something, and when you then turn the clip into a groove clip it can adapt to the projects changed tempo and be copied by dragging.
    If it's a MIDI-groove clip, you need a soft synth to make audible.

    So soft synths and groove clips have absolutely nothing to do with eachother per se, but you can play MIDI-groove clips with soft synths.

    If I understand correctly you've been trying to export your project with the result that drums are missing?? Did you select all the tracks for export?

    I'm not sure if "groove clip" in Groove Monkeys site means the same thing as in SONAR-lingo. I don't know if it's a general expression or software dependent.

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    Re:I can't seem to convert midi to audio 2011/06/23 00:41:38 (permalink)
    Right. You have to select both the MIDI tracks and their associated soft synth track before they can be converted to audio or exported.
    What software synthesizer or hardware synthesizer is making the drum noise when you hit Play?
    If it's the Microsoft GS Wavetable synth, I suggest insertng a soft synth and sending the MIDI output from the drum track to that soft synth. Depending on which version of SONAR LE you have, that could be TTS-1, Edirol VSC, Session Drummer 1 or 2, or Studio Instruments Drums.
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