Reverb for ambient music

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2011/01/02 14:00:34 (permalink)

Reverb for ambient music

Can anybody recommend a reverb for ambient type of sounds?
I'm looking for the kind of thing you can do with the Strymon blueSky
like "shimmer": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmWBQgiqjtY
or "infinite plate": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70oVouoJMrQ&feature=related
If anybody's had any experience in doing this sort of thing with software, I'd appreciate any tips!
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    bitflipper
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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/02 20:51:30 (permalink)
    I am no authority on ambient styles, but I have some experience with Vangelis-type space music, which utilizes very long lush reverb tails.

    The bundled StudioVerb2 is pretty good for this. Use the "motion depth" control plus add a light chorus effect to the return to get that shimmery sound. I prefer the free Kjaerhus Classic Chorus for this, but it's a hard plugin to find now that Kjaerhus is no more.

    Another one that can be nice for lush reverb (with some fiddling) is the Lexicon Pantheon that was bundled prior to X1. The chorus trick works well on that one, too.

    And for any reverb, placing a delay in front of it can make for a very dense effect. The free NastyDLA delay plugin is good for this because of its random-modulation feature.


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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/02 21:44:16 (permalink)
    Eos is fab for this kind of stuff.

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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/02 23:56:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for the tips, guys ... I appreciate it. I think I will try the free-bee stuff first ... I'm pretty sure I've got all those pieces. I also took a listen to the Eos samples on the Audio Damage site. It's really got the Eno thing going ... may be well worth the $49.

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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/03 05:20:38 (permalink)
    I have discovered Liquidsonics 'Reverberate' It is a very affordable convolution Reverb with some interesting twists.

    http://www.liquidsonics.com/home.htm

    Firstly it has two reverb engines as opposed to one and two sound better than one. It can sweep between the reverb engines which is cool. You can also get EQ to change over the course of the reverb which is also unusual.

    It also has some great delay and chorus effects built in to the Reverb and it can create some very unique Reverb sounds that other Reverb processors are not capable. It is also very friendly on your CPU as well.

    I have produced a lot of ambient music in the style of Brian Eno (ala 'On land Ambient 4' which in my opinion is the finest music Eno has ever produced.) so I know how important the Reverbs have to be. 'Perfect Space' is pretty cool too and you can get some good sounds out of it as well. But try 'Reverberate' it has got some great reviews and is very cheap. There is a fantastic Taj Mahal preset which is quite amazing.

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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/03 08:34:45 (permalink)
    I also use the Cakewalk default Studioverb2 as my "go to" reverb. It offers many different types of verb which I find to be more realistic sounding than the reverbs in some of the fairly expensive "processors" I have purchased.

    It's easy to start with a preset verb, such as a dark plate and make some adjustments and tweezes and then save it with a new name. In addition, in Cake, you can easily stack a verb with a chorus to add more variety to the resultant sound.

    In that first video, I think the amp was a clean sounding amp and that contributed to the sound that was achieved, plus it also sounded like strings were coming in..... that might have been the reverb, or not....

    But with some experimentation, you should be able to achieve a sweet reverb with the built in cake tools.

    Of course, you can always spend money and buy some of the aftermarket verbs as well. They also sound good...for a price.
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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/03 10:06:30 (permalink)
    I prefer to use the ambience vst , especially it's long reverb preset.
    Experiment with dry/wet signal , and maybe using two, three long reverbs. 

    Long reverberation/decay time +  delay + modulation (flanger,chorus) + reverb, would be my advice.


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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/03 20:04:47 (permalink)
    It sounds to me like the Strymon BlueSky "shimmer" mode is mixing in some pitch-shifted signal along with the reverb and dry. The Valhalla Shimmer plugin seems like a good match for that http://valhalladsp.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/introducing-valhallashimmer/ as well as the infinite plate, i.e. very long decay times with gentle high end rolloff. I don't own this yet but it is well liked by the ambient crowd at KvR, especially when stacking several instances in series.

    http://www.kvraudio.com/f../viewtopic.php?t=296095
    http://valhalladsp.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/valhallashimmer-tips-and-tricks-shimmering/


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    Re:Reverb for ambient music 2011/01/04 17:05:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the great input, everybody. I will definitely be investigating all your suggestions! I'd never really considered chaining multiple reverb instances before, but I can see how that in combination with some delay, chorus and pitch shifting might produce the kinds of sounds I'm looking for.

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