Hardware Upgrade Questions

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2011/01/08 16:15:59 (permalink)

Hardware Upgrade Questions

I eventually plan to upgrade from my current Sonar 6.2.1 Studio to that latest Sonar Producer.  My system demands for projects are modest (2 to 5 audio tracks, 5 to 8 MIDI tracks, max 2 inputs recorded at a time).  Since my current laptop does not meet the system requirements for X1, I plan to get a new laptop (probably HP Pavilion).   Questions:
Processor system requirements for Sonar X1 are “any Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.67 GHz/AMD Phenom Quad Core 9750 2.4 Ghz.”  I think those are desk top processors.  What is the equivalent for laptops? 2.       My current audio interface uses Firewire (Cakewalk “Power Studio”, made by Roland).  Unfortunately, the newer laptops I am considering do not have Firewire.  Can I use a USB port on the new laptop, then go through some kind of USB/Firewire converter, then into my audio interface, or should I just buy a new USB audio interface?  
3.       If I need a new USB audio interface, can anyone recommend a compact one under $500 that has better pre-amps compared to my Power Studio (not that I am complaining)?
4.       I was thinking of buying a separate 27-inch HD monitor to plug into the laptop.  Make sense?
 
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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/08 16:51:37 (permalink)
    3. M-audio Fast Track Ultra?

    4. Good idea

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/08 17:52:23 (permalink)
    Also considering Fast Track Ultra.

    Don't go to Edirol stuff if latency is important for you.
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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/08 21:44:53 (permalink)
    Thanks for input so far.  Looks like M-audio Fast Track Ultra would make a good replacement if I can't convert USB to Firewire.  Yes, Edirol does have high latency - I keep having to adjust buffer size. 

    Any ideas on acceptable processors for a laptop?  Thanks.

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/09 00:22:53 (permalink)
    Any ideas on acceptable processors for a laptop? Thanks.


    Greg,

    PassMark CPU Benchmarks has a pretty comprehensive listing of their performance testing on most CPUs. They include desktop and laptop CPUs and CPUs from Intel and AMD. It is useful for comparing the relative CPU performance of any CPUs you might be considering.

    BTW, you may want to consider using an external, fast HD for your audio and samples unless your laptop uses an SSD.

    Good luck.

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/09 01:30:46 (permalink)
    Don't go to Edirol stuff if latency is important for you.

    Mkibble, Edirol cards are great. Ive owned 2 of them in the past and I got low latency. If i remember, I got 1.9msecs.
    If you didnt get low enough latency with your edirol card, it had nothing to do with the card and everything to do with your pc.
     

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/09 10:59:16 (permalink)
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    Don't go to Edirol stuff if latency is important for you.

    Mkibble, Edirol cards are great. Ive owned 2 of them in the past and I got low latency. If i remember, I got 1.9msecs.
    If you didnt get low enough latency with your edirol card, it had nothing to do with the card and everything to do with your pc.
     

    I'm sorry, I was talking abou the FA 66 in specific, have you tested it? Look at my topic (http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2186868). In tests in Sonar, the first CPU doesn't go beyond 40% and the others are barely used. I have an i7 with 8 GB of RAM, external 7200 RPM HD (via e-SATA). So my problem, is definitely not the computer! In fact I can get low latency with FA 66, but Sonar gets extremely unstable (dropouts, stops playing, stops echoing). Things just get stable with "normal" in the Buffer slider and I really don't know the numbers, but it's not enough to play fast arrangements.

    Thanks.

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/09 13:04:46 (permalink)
    Thanks for the additional input.  Regarding my original question No. 3, I assume I can't simply use my existing Firewire audio interface connected to a USB port on the new laptop with some kind of USB/Firewire adapter (or converted) in between, correct?  Thanks.

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/09 14:07:36 (permalink)
    I'm sorry, I was talking abou the FA 66 in specific, have you tested it

    Yes I have and it worked great and it got me very low latency.

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    Re:Hardware Upgrade Questions 2011/01/09 15:58:59 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the additional input.  Regarding my original question No. 3, I assume I can't simply use my existing Firewire audio interface connected to a USB port on the new laptop with some kind of USB/Firewire adapter (or converted) in between, correct?  Thanks.

    Greg

    I've never seen this kind of adapter. And if it existis will probably be unstable for audio purposes.

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    I'm sorry, I was talking abou the FA 66 in specific, have you tested it

    Yes I have and it worked great and it got me very low latency.



    Now I'm getting confused. What are the specs of the system you tested it? Did you control the latency with the 'Buffer' slide?? I'm thinking about returning it on Monday if I can't solve this... can you help me?? Thanks.
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