Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play

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Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play

I've never seen this. I loop recorded a couple of takes and all the takes except for the last, shortened version have a small red circle or symbol next to it and they won't produce any audio. The last take that didn't finish through the loop plays.

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:17:38 (permalink)
    That's right isn't it? Not at my daw right now but I think that's how it works when you do multiple takes. All takes are muted except for the last.

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:23:09 (permalink)
    Well I've been doing this all day and haven't seen this yet but let's say that's so. How do I play them now?

    Previously they would all play and I had to manually mute each track I didn't want to hear. Again how do i now get them to play?

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:25:13 (permalink)
    You see the little M and S? Click the M to unmute. If that doesn't work, right click on the clip and click on clip mute/unmute. You should be able to hear them all play at once.

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:31:10 (permalink)
    Default key mapping now to unmute is 'K'.
     
    This is the behavior when you go into Edit | Preferences | Project | Record and select 'Overwrite'. 
     
    From the online help:
     
    SONAR loops between the loop start and loop end time, allowing you to record one take on each pass. SONAR creates a clip for each take. You have three choices for where these clips are stored:
      All clips can be recorded in Sound on Sound mode and stored in a single track, where they are stacked on top of one another.

    ●  All clips can be recorded in Overwrite mode in a single track, where each take is successively muted except the last one.

    post edited by shawnbulen - 2011/01/09 00:33:14

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:37:55 (permalink)
    Wow. Thanks for the help. I'm not sure what I changed and have been recording all day but this is the first I've seen of this. The little 'm' didn't have any effect so I both unmuted from the clip and pressed 'K' to unmute.

    Thanks again for the fast replies.

    There has to be a way to loop record without the tracks being muted because I've been doing it all day. What did I change?

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:47:34 (permalink)
    I 'think' if you right click on the record button your record loop options come up. I 'think'. Not sure, I'm not at my daw now. Hope this helps.

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:48:48 (permalink)
     
    The parameter changed is the one I identified above - Recording Mode.   You may have accidently hit a shortcut key or something.  
     
    If you really want to hear all of the takes, change it from 'Overwrite' to 'Sound on Sound'. 
     
    I leave it on 'overwrite' (like you have it now) during recording.   Then, to compare takes, I unmute all of 'em and use the Ms/Ss to go back & forth between takes to choose which one I want to keep.  It's very handy. 

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:50:10 (permalink)
    Bub is correct.  Right clicking on the record button quickly takes you to the Recording Mode dialog box.  I didn't know that...

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:50:36 (permalink)
    Yeah that's right Bub and 'Auto Punch' has an option to 'mute previous take' but that's unchecked. Weird.

    The only option, that's always been checked is store take in a single track. Help file simply says to mute unmute using the little 'm' and 's' buttons.

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:58:47 (permalink)
    But your recording mode was on 'overwrite', correct?   I believe that's what is creating this behavior. 
     
    There are several different mute settings & priorities...  One is at the clip level, by selecting the clip & pressing K. 
    The other is muting/soloing the different layers/takes, by using the little Ms & Ss.  
    The clip mute takes precedence, i.e., if you see the little red circle, the clip won't play even if you press the 'S'. 
    Hope this helps.

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    Re:Red Cicles Next to Recorded Layers - Layers Won't Play 2011/01/09 00:59:13 (permalink)
    Hey Thanks Bub, Shawn,

    shawn I did indeed have it on 'overwrite' and must have previously had it on 'sound on sound' which like you posted doesn't mute each take.

    I actually prefer the overwrite setting with 'K' as a short cut key. Either way that's cleared up for now

    Thanks again.

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