Clip Properties problem

Long time Sonar user trying to get to grips with X1.

In Sonar 8.5, I could set a midi clips start time by right clicking on the clip, selecting Properties and setting the start time, simple.

In X1, I found the Clip Properties on the Track Inspector, and tried to set the start time there but the start time leaps a huge amount every time I try to change it.

Most likely I have missed something simple somewhere, I read the help file and I am following the procedure listed, but still these apparently random jumps are happening still.

So can anyone tell me how to set\change a Clip Start Time ?

Thanks for viewing my post, and for any assistance you can offer.

Brundlefly,
    Thanks for the reply. The clip I was trying to move had been part of a larger clip split into smaller sections. It turns out if the split clips are Bounced to Clips the Clip Start Time works fine, but if it is not bounced to clip, it seems to treat the clip as if it was the original length, and moves the start accordingly.

You can see it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Q7n-nKoxE

Can anyone confirm this the default behaviour in X1 ?

Bristol_Jonesey


I think that's because when you initially split a clip, or slip-edit the start/ends, all you've done is actually hide the original data - it's still there but you can't see it, as that particular type of edit is non-destructive.

Bouncing to clip is by its very nature destructive, so afterwards each clip is, if you like, its own entity.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong pelase.

You're right that splitting and slip editing can be non-destructive (if you have that option enabled for MIDI clips, which I tend not to), and bouncing is destructive, but non-destructively edited clip boundaries should still follow snap rules. However, in X1, it seems that non-destructively edited clip boundaries always Move By, even when snap is set to Move To.
 
I need to investigate this some more to confirm this, but that's my initial take.  In the mean time, I recommend just copying the track, and using destructive editing on it. Even without this new (?) bug, I've always found non-destructive MIDI editing to produce strange and not-so-wonderful results in some cases.

I fooled around with this some more, and get very inconsistent results. Sometimes it works great, sometimes it does Move By, instead of Move To, and sometimes it starts snapping the clip end to the grid or to the boundary of another clip, even though snap to Landmarks is disabled.

I guess this is all part of the assorted issues that have been reported with Snap to Grid that we can only hope will be cleared up in X1b.