Recording From The FX Send of an Amp?

THIS IS BETTER.

PALMER PDI-09
http://www.palmergear.com/pdi09.shtml

Thanks guys, I have heard of the Palmer Speaker Sims but hadn't seen this specialised DI Box, will check it out thanks.

Chappel, I know there are loads, I actually have a few and use them regularly but have usually DI'ed the guitar straight into the studio preamps, my quesiton was regarding the safe use of the FX Send as a Line Out basically :)

Cheers Chappel, thanks for the clarification.

Norrie


I had a convo with some one about his recently about useing a head to record with out a cab.

What I had been told thas is that if its a tube head then its ok to take a line out from the FX send or even the HEadphone out if the amp has one.

But With Valve amps it needs something between to take the load like conecting the head to a hotplate then in to the PRE you will be recording from.

Can any one comment on this ? If this info is correct or not ?

Cheers guys

Norrie

Hey dude, I think you got your words muddled up, a valve amp and a tube amp are the same thing. Tube is the American word for Valve basically.


Valve / tube Amps - Can never be used without being connected to a speaker or similar load bearer (Palmer PDI03 for example). Doing so WILL damage the amp and usually pretty quickly I'm told.

SolidState Amps - Do what you want, nee damaging these by doing what you mentioned. 


I do not know the technicalities of it but NEVER use a valve/tube head without a speaker or similar loadbox connected.

Hey man, the hotplate is an 'attenuator' it goes between the head and speaker cab and it acts as a secondary master volume, controlling the volume of the speakers essentially. It is not a dummy load as far as I am aware so you cannot run it straight into the computer, it must be connected to a speaker cabinet.

The Palmer is essentially a split box, splitting the signal between a speaker and a computer, again, a speaker MUST be connected.

The Palmer PDI03 is different though and acts AS a speaker so you can run your amp head without using a speaker, enabling silent recording. There are similar including the Torpedo which is supposed to be good, but generally dummy loads are not that common.

Norrie


Hey man thanks for the reply and sorry again for jumping on this thread

I am glad I found it though Ive ben searching for something to be able to use heads for silent recording :) IF I can use and the palmer PD103 I shall be geting one asap

Thanks again!

Norrie

Yeah man no problems, it totally replaces your speaker cabinet.
I myself am intending to buy one when I can too.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/palmer_pdi03.htm

batsbrew


the cool thing with this setup is, you can send 2 tracks at once, miced and direct, and blend them together.
close micing, you get very little latency between the 2, and don't have to move the miced track.

or

move the mic way back, make it a room mic, and pan it to the opposite side of wherever you pan the direct track.

This looks like a good set up for what I would be looking to do here.

I am looking at an egnator amp atthe mommetn and its got a dial for going from 1 wat 2 20 wat its supoz to be the Idea recording amp I was playing one last week in a local shop and I was amaized at the sound from it only thing that put me off was that it had no reverb but I could do that in sonar couldnt I?

That and a palmer would be cool awesome Idea you had there bats brew :D

Norrie