Scott Lee
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A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
Hi All, I posted this in another thread but felt it may not get the attention it deserves. A fantastic readup to snuff out the "Analog or digital, plugins sound better in 64 bit, or 64-bit gives you anything more then ram?" from Paul Frindle over on gearslutz. I saw it last october so I wanted to reshare to the folks if you may not have been exposed to it. "Paul Frindle has 35 years' experience in the pro audio and music industries. He has worked as a studio engineer in Oxford and Paris, and was a design engineer at SSL with responsibilities for E and G-series analogue consoles, emerging assignable consoles and nascent digital audio products. As one of the original team that became Sony Oxford, he is responsible for many revolutionary aspects of the Sony OXF-R3 mixing console. More recently he was responsible for product design and quality assurance at Oxford Plugins. On leaving Sony Oxford, he co-founded Pro Audio DSP in order to make novel sound-processing applications to fulfill many issues he had identified in the audio production chain over his career.
Paul is a very trusted Pro Audio Digital Myth buster"
Enjoy : http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/542885-paul-frindle-truth-myth.html
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 18:42:47
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Mr Frindle is also the man that was often quoted to substantiate the myth that we should all track 24 bit recordings with -20dB peaking. One of he most widely spread myths of the digital workstation era. Which we later learned was advice meant to be contextual to one or 2 SSL consoles that had hidden 16 bit bottlenecks on the strips. Thanks for the link... I think I'll enjoy it. very best, mike edit to add: hmmm.... Paul's first post on that thread says "everyone please understand that I didn't put this thread here."
post edited by mike_mccue - 2011/01/11 18:54:21
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Scott Lee
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 18:58:34
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"hmmm.... Paul's first post on that thread says
"everyone please understand that I didn't put this thread here."
Correct. Another board member was asking paul to answer truths or myths questions. He was just stating he did not start the thread orginally but did take the time to answer the questions.
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 20:17:13
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I had thought that perhaps the link went to a fully detailed essay or article that he had prepared.
I think that thread.. in an unregulated format will further a legacy of confusion.
There has already been a mention of the "intersample peak" with only a minor sidebar mention that the term inter sample peak doesn't actually describe the phenomena Mr Frindle uses the term for. That will get the ball rolling for another few years.
No one has heard a real inter sample peak since we adopted 44.1kHz or greater sample rates. That doesn't mean there isn't a problem that may happen and that Mr Frindle is trying to describe... it just means the problem isn't the infamous inter sample peak.
best regards,
mike
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Scott Lee
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 20:30:04
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I dunno Mike,
I think part of the fun of the post was to see all the audiotheory! It at least can get peoples minds off of X1 until X1b hits the interweb :)
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 20:39:59
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 21:03:45
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Scott Lee
I dunno Mike,
I think part of the fun of the post was to see all the audiotheory! It at least can get peoples minds off of X1 until X1b hits the interweb :)
Yes I'm sorry... It's just that for a moment I was really excited to read a fully realized essay by Mr Frindle. In the past it has been difficult to learn the stuff he knows because he is fending off the arguments and as a reader you have to sort of reconstruct the sentences and replies into what you think is the culmination of a thread. all the best, mike
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Re:A great readup! Audio truths / myths.
2011/01/11 21:09:31
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Indeed,
I dont blame him either. Just as he posted, the "flame wars" will follow soon after. I think people get passionate with the investments they make over the years and or dealers that want you to buy the big next thing.
I tend to think if the 2010 car has a beautiful paint job, runs smooth as butter, and functions as perfect as I'd like, I dont need a dealership to force the 2011 model on me. There are obvious advancements in tech that is for sure, but I think its also relevant what kind of step we are referring too.
Best,
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