Early Track: Rock Instrumental: Experimental, called "moment by moment"

Edgy, untamed, pompous classical rock (or such).

Excellent performances, top-shelf, and most promising, to my 'intermediate' ears.  There's a lot to love in this.

Of course, IMHO, there is always room for vox (to set this up 10 notches) ... preferably a coherent one with a message, again IMHO. 

But, the arrangement tempos work for me, AS IS.  (Some things are better left alone, IMHO)

Sorry if I didn't respond appropriately ... but my universe is vox-centric and I'm sticking with my crony opinion.  An ambitious singer could easily run with this as a top-notch pro-producer groove ... and write a potent classicoid rock anthem ... with this experiment.

Sorry guys, I updated the link but didn't update the post. I apologize. I don't know if this bumps it or not...

I can definitely de-shrill. I mix at low volumes so, sometimes that stuff can get by if you don't turn it up loud enough I guess.
I'm hoping to have the vocal track done this weekend

I like the tune as well.....

If you think of the tempo shift as a bridge then I feel you could get away with it....but keep it to just two tempos....I think you kind of slipped a third one in there.....any more than two changes it starts to feel like your rambling but I do not think that is what you are striving for here....

It also felt a little out of time in spots (the guitar lead with delays) so I think you need to tighten up the groove to make it a little more coherant (spelling .....sorry)

but the concept is very good.....just start on developing int now!

my 2 cents
Clifford

Truckermusic


I like the tune as well.....

If you think of the tempo shift as a bridge then I feel you could get away with it....but keep it to just two tempos....I think you kind of slipped a third one in there.....any more than two changes it starts to feel like your rambling but I do not think that is what you are striving for here....

It also felt a little out of time in spots (the guitar lead with delays) so I think you need to tighten up the groove to make it a little more coherant (spelling .....sorry)

but the concept is very good.....just start on developing int now!

my 2 cents
Clifford

I like your bridge thought. When I listen to it, and perhaps this is the fact that I know what the lyrics are, I felt like the time changes turned out to be like mood changes. Almost like a blip, just enough to make you wha? Whoa, what was that? But in a good way. Lyrically this describes a scene and everything about it is meant to tell that story even without the lyrics. I'll post them. Feel free to critique.


If you don't mind, could you pin point the timing issue for me? If it's what I'm thinking of, I think it's a slop delivery on a guitar lick that I accidentally left in there. But, maybe it's not and I want to be sure.


<---begin lyrics-->
Chorus
becuase I'm broken inside    
out of my mind - breaking down my...
My body full of compromise
betrays my side - Thank God for giving 
the perfect sacrifice 
covers me But for men to live the Son had to die

verse 1
betrayed at the garden
fate sealed by the devils kiss
no truth in accusations    
no words in his defense


Do you dare to provoke me [says pilate]
I drink from holy water
You have no power over me [except what's]
given by my father



G                F          G          F D
Then why do you stand here, a man accused?
is it true what they say, what did you do?

F G
their conscience seared with ever jeer
F G (small bass lick)
committed no crime, but for this he dies


woman behold you son
the coming king of the jews
No man takes my life from me
I've made all things new

as the ground begins to tremble
the veil torn in two
with the words it is finished
we've crucified the truth

G                F          G          F D
Then why do you stand here, a man accused?
is it true what they say, what did you do?

F G
their conscience seared with ever jeer
F G (small bass lick)
committed no crime, but for this he dies

Joshua

Love the piece which shows off some of your great chops.

That tempo change scared you and it shows. You don't need to prepare a listener for a tempo change, just do it. Those 3 hits at 1:01 just sound out of whack and IMO are not needed, just go into the change. But the second time (2:40ish) they make more sense with the little extra added.

Don't know if that make sense but it does to me.

Nice work.

Ron

RR; LOL; 

You know for all the trouble I've had being married, my wife supports my musical endeavors. She's not super enthusiastic, just very accommodating for all the noise I make.

I kind of like the concept here. kind of reminds me of early Black Sabath in a way and Tool at the same time. I like both, so take that as a good thing.
Yes, the lead is exceptionally bright up to 00:37, but when it appears after that, it seems to fit much better. Fatten it up for the intro, and I think it will drop nicely into place.
The tempo changes are actually kind of cool.
Sleep on this. It's going to be one of those wake up at three AM I know what I need to do kind of things.
I like what you have so far, and can't wait to hear it with your vox.

mgh


well Josh, first thing; the mix so far sounds very good, and your skills there are coming along, so for such a WIP, that's great, huh? and as your strongest suit is singing, this is gonna be smoking when it's done. The timing changes - YES! they sound excellent. much more inventive. i agree the lead tone could be smoothed out, try using the neck pup instead.

but this is gonna be a monster! i think once vox are added you may actually lose some of the lead work, or some of the instrumentation, as it already sounds quite a dense, compressed mix. that's the beauty of recording, sometimes as you go along it needs something different to how you originally heard it.

MGH,


your'e the one that's made the most difference. I've started tooling everything from the ground up and trying to be focused on how this all fits together sonically. Plus I downloaded all those compressors you sent me...DANG!


I agree, it morphs as you go. You have to be willing to let it, otherwise it will come out forced. So, this is the challenge, when I go to lay down my vocal, do I stick with the melody that inspired it, or the one that comes natural as I try to sing with my own song as a backing track...choices choices....

I agree the tone on the distortion is a bit harsh on highs. It's got a good groove. Lyrics and melody would be nice to hear when you have it up and running.

I agree with Bob (RobertB)...sometime....some weird time, probably, it will come together for you and you'll know what to do with it. I like what I'm hearing.  I think you'll be able to make it gel...it will come to you.  I often have songs that come together in weird ways...chorus here....no, chorus there....no, a different chorus...no....etc., etc.  Some work and some don't.  No, let's say I don't work hard enough to finish them all.

This is worth finishing. :-)