Clip Automation > Gain - keybinding?

Automation is handled differently now. Click the Edit Filter control (probably labeled Clips) for the Track with which you're working. Choose Clip Automation > Gain from the menu, which will automatically add a gain envelope to every clip in the track.

You can also access the Edit Filter control in the Tools HUD by pressing the middle mouse button (or mouse wheel) or by pressing T on your PC keyboard.

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i tried forever to figure out how to use trancients last night..untill i searched around and realized it doesnt come with essential..there are some great aotumation features in x1..but the help guide that comes with it is for essential,studio and producer and its not labeled well at all.
i just wish someone took the time to stamp more topics"producer only"..there are some,but not many..this has lead me to waste valuable time i could be spending on learning more.
better manual please?

But what you _can_ do is Shift+click on the clip envelope to start editing it immediately without using the Edit Filter control.

Except when you want to create the clip envelope, there's no envelope to shift+click. A keybinding would be really helpful and speed up the process.

better manual..i know i sound like a joke...but im hindered...itts holding me back .....just venting a little

I'm almost cool with it. I like the edit filter mostly, but I still find myself wishing that I could just do a keyboard command of some sort to get to the clip gain envelopes.

After working with X1 for a while, I've found that for how I work with clip envelopes it's not that much of an improvement. Before (once I had set up my custom menu) it was right-click, click, click. Now it's middle-click, spin, click, click. More steps.  Sure, I can then see clip envelopes on all selected clips at this point, but if I don't actually make a change to the envelope it goes away and I can't shift-click it to set the edit filter to it. 

Plus, I only ever deal with one clip envelope at a time for the most part--I have many clips on a track, but only need to edit one clip envelope.  So there's not much value for me in making all those clip envelopes at once since they'll all go to waste except the one I'm working with at the moment.

It just seems that for an action that I'm going to be doing many, many times that requires a middle-click, spin, click, click, I could be more efficient if I could assign a key binding to that action.

Eotm

But what you _can_ do is Shift+click on the clip envelope to start editing it immediately without using the Edit Filter control.

Except when you want to create the clip envelope, there's no envelope to shift+click. A keybinding would be really helpful and speed up the process.

Exactly what Im missing, a keybinding to intiate clip envelopes. The shift clip on envelopes to change editing focus is a cool thing though.

They be nice I reckon.

Sometimes I do simple adjustments to a clip, when mixing sometimes I do much more complex automation so they're both useful to me.

tarsier

So no love for simple Gain Handles on each Clip? Am I the only one that likes this?

No, I wouldn't mind them. But would having clip gain envelopes automatically enabled by default take care of this?

Hmmm... Yes and no. I fear that with the way the current gain envelopes look, it would make the track view look messy and cluttered. Also, because of the whole Edit Filter paradigm, the clip envelopes are not directly accessible so this would never be as good as permanent Gain Handles on each clip.

Another thing is that the clip Volume Envelopes don't affect the waveform drawing. In Cubase dragging the volume handle up or down also scales the waveform in that clip. It is instantly clear that a certain clip has a lower or higher volume. Good visual feedback is essential IMO.

But if they stick with the edit filter paradigm, then I'd still like a keybinding to enable clip gain editing.

Yes me too. It certainly seems like the easiest and quickest fix. (But not the best!).

UnderTow

UnderTow


So no love for simple Gain Handles on each Clip? Am I the only one that likes this?

UnderTow

I always wanted them when I used to sit with other sound engineers working on Nuendo, but with the arrival of clip envelopes I dont miss them so much. They would be welcome anytime though, with their visible wave volumes and super ease of use.

If back and forth instant access is the goal. Set up a screenset. One with clip automation showing and switch to it by pressing the number button.

Doesn't get much quicker than that.

Probably but in the meantime a screenset will do the same thing.

Copy the one you are currently using, (ctrl+number key) change the edit filter in the new SS to clip automation and then swap back & forth. The effect is the same but you lose a screenset slot.