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Clips Question
Started tracking a hook on a track. The track now has 8 clips. i want to do clip automation (gain) on certain clips but everytime i select a clip and turn on clip automation the same clip (which isnt the one i selected) get affected. this is getting very frustrating as ive tried everything i could think of to "unlink" the clips. this is easy in 8.5 - any suggestions?
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 04:30:58
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You can unlink clips in the "Clips" menu of the track view.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 21:38:37
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i tried that but X1 isnt responding... appreciate your feedback though. any other sugggestions?
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 22:41:25
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...any other sugggestions?
Yes, WHYZ - I suggest you get the work done in 8.5, where, as you said, you know this is easy. I hope you still have 8.5 on your computer. RB
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 23:12:40
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yeah i still got it installed. i might have to do that. dont want to but i just might have to! DAMN.....X1
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 23:14:01
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Have you tried putting the clips in different layers?
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 23:25:07
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what exactly do you mean by different layers?
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/26 23:42:24
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Whyz, Try this. Select the clip. Press the middle mouse button. Go to the drop down menu and choose clip automation. Now each clip has its own envelope. Seems to be same function as 8.53 with gain and pan choices? Or choose clip automation from the drop down edit filter. HTH EDIT: Sorry just re-read your post and I see your using clip automation. Works great here but not sure why your clips are linked somehow.
post edited by HumbleNoise - 2011/01/26 23:46:42
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 00:02:10
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 00:04:33
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yeah it has me scratching my head too! i know exactly how its supposed to work but i guess this is the bug for my machine. everything else works "for the most part". this is crazy
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 00:08:13
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yeah i still got it installed. i might have to do that. dont want to but i just might have to! DAMN.....X1
That's a good deal that you still have 8.5. I just don't think it's worth beating your head against a wall trying to make X1 work in its present state. It's full of promise, but I don't find it practical yet. I do all my work in 8.5 still. I'm patiently awaiting the fixes X1 needs. RB
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 00:50:03
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yeah it has me scratching my head too! i know exactly how its supposed to work but i guess this is the bug for my machine. everything else works "for the most part". this is crazy
In my experience with X1, what happens is the more you to try to do with it, the more you start saying, "oh oh." It can seem sleek and efficient on the surface, but then you may find that the same tasks are either taking longer than they used to, or aren't possible at all - as in the case of what you're trying to do. There's no reason to not stick with good ol 8.5, and hope X1 eventually gets up to speed. Of course one drag is that we all paid money for this upgrade - and so many of us are finding that it's "not good enough," as another thread has it titled. Get your work done. Go to 8.5. Come back to X1 when the smoke clears. RB
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 00:55:26
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"...or aren't possible at all - as in the case of what you're trying to do."
Works perfectly on my system. Just sayin'.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 01:06:16
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Just to confirm the basics... Have you changed your Edit Filter to 'Clip Gain'?
It's drop-down between your MSR and your RW* in Track View.
Second question - are you dealing with layers? E.g., are your multiple clips stacked on top of each other?
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 01:09:21
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Just tried it again. Works great. Must be something simple.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 01:49:26
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i can reproduce this by creating a bunch of layers with approximately the same start/end. Get into clip automation gain mode using the edit filter. You can only edit one at a time - the 'bottom' one.
What I can't figure out is whether there is some setting making it do this... I.e., overwrite/blend, etc.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 03:34:35
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i can reproduce this by creating a bunch of layers with approximately the same start/end. Get into clip automation gain mode using the edit filter. You can only edit one at a time - the 'bottom' one.
What I can't figure out is whether there is some setting making it do this... I.e., overwrite/blend, etc.
This is exactly what im experiencing. and yes all of the start /end times are the same. sorry i failed to mention that. didnt think it was relevant, but this is exactly how my track is. this is crazy.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 04:34:52
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 17:52:35
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no sir they dont overlap! woody you look like Randy Couture!
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 18:28:50
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Try this.
Select all of the clips you want to automate. Select Clip Automation then Gain in the track header. The automation line shows up with nodes at the beginning and end of each clip. Adjust each one independently. Works fine here in X1.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/27 23:54:08
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shawnbulen
i can reproduce this by creating a bunch of layers with approximately the same start/end. Get into clip automation gain mode using the edit filter. You can only edit one at a time - the 'bottom' one.
What I can't figure out is whether there is some setting making it do this... I.e., overwrite/blend, etc.
This is exactly what im experiencing. and yes all of the start /end times are the same. sorry i failed to mention that. didnt think it was relevant, but this is exactly how my track is. this is crazy.
I believe this is a real bug. For me, this is perfectly consistent in X1. I've tried to find if there is a setting that might make X1 think only 1 clip is active at a time which would explain this, but no such luck. This issue is specific to editing clip envelopes (both pan and gain), when there are multiple 'takes' captured as multiple layers within the same track that overlap in whole or in part. BTW, this is not restricted to multiple takes made in a loop/single recording session. I can take multiple audio clips from anywhere in a project, drag 'em to where they overlap, cut over to clip automation, and reproduce. What's very odd is that there is some kind of limit to the DEGREE of OVERLAP... It can work if they overlap only a little. But it won't work if they overlap a lot... To workaround, for now, either split 'em to different tracks, or, drag 'em off to the side temporarily to set the clip automation.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/28 06:38:07
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i can reproduce this by creating a bunch of layers with approximately the same start/end. Get into clip automation gain mode using the edit filter. You can only edit one at a time - the 'bottom' one.
What I can't figure out is whether there is some setting making it do this... I.e., overwrite/blend, etc.
This is exactly what im experiencing. and yes all of the start /end times are the same. sorry i failed to mention that. didnt think it was relevant, but this is exactly how my track is. this is crazy.
I believe this is a real bug. For me, this is perfectly consistent in X1. I've tried to find if there is a setting that might make X1 think only 1 clip is active at a time which would explain this, but no such luck.
This issue is specific to editing clip envelopes (both pan and gain), when there are multiple 'takes' captured as multiple layers within the same track that overlap in whole or in part. BTW, this is not restricted to multiple takes made in a loop/single recording session. I can take multiple audio clips from anywhere in a project, drag 'em to where they overlap, cut over to clip automation, and reproduce.
What's very odd is that there is some kind of limit to the DEGREE of OVERLAP... It can work if they overlap only a little. But it won't work if they overlap a lot...
To workaround, for now, either split 'em to different tracks, or, drag 'em off to the side temporarily to set the clip automation.
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Re:Clips Question
2011/01/29 14:13:40
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Make sure you submit a report while cakewalk is working on the next update
Done!
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