Set incoming velocity levels by note?

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2011/01/30 01:58:37 (permalink)

Set incoming velocity levels by note?

Rather than bore you with the details, just know that I need for all the G#3s coming into SONAR from my edrums be set at high velocity levels.  I seem to recall a way to do this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Steve

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    Chappel
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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 02:26:36 (permalink)
    There are different ways to do that. One way is to open the track in the PRV, click the key (or drum name) for that note at the left side of the PRV. That will select ALL the note events on that note. Then go to Process>Scale velocity and enter the desired volume number for both the Begin and End values. You can also change the volume by percentages. Entering both values at 110 percent will raise the volume of all selected notes by 10%.

    You can change all the note values with both Interpolate and with the Event Inspector but for what you want to do I would use the method I described above because it's quick and simple.
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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 02:51:15 (permalink)
    Thanks very much for the reply.  I should have been more specific.  My edrum module sends out hi-hat pedal (foot chick) notes at a velocity level between 45-55.  This is not enough to trigger some VSTs, so I get no sound on that note (G#3).  Sure, I can edit the velocities post, but I really need to hear these notes at a higher velocity as I'm playing to hear mistakes and misfires and such.   I may be tilting at windmills here.

    Thanks again.

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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 02:56:34 (permalink)
    What Midi drum controller are you using? Perhaps it has adjustable Midi output levels.
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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 03:11:50 (permalink)
    It's a Roland TD-6V.  Yeah, I posted this at the V-drum forum and nobody there seems to have a solution.  You can't edit each individual note by velocity.  Edrums (as a rule) use cc4 to scroll between the different notes and articulations.

    Thanks again.

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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 05:04:38 (permalink)
    I'm reading the manual and it seems you can adjust the midi levels of the Pedal Hi-Hat Volume. It can be changed to output of a range between 0 to 15, with 15 being the maximum.

    "Adjusting the Volume of the Pad (Level)
    Adjusts the volume of the instrument. Raising the value will increase the volume. With a setting of “0,” no sound is produced. Make the adjustment here when correcting the volume balance between instruments. The pedal hi-hat volume is set in “Pedal HH Vol (Pedal Hi-Hat Volume)” (KIT/COMMON/Pedal HH Vol; p. 66).


    Adjusting the Volume of the Pedal
    Hi-Hat Sound (Pedal Hi-Hat Volume) For each drum kit, you can adjust the volume of the pedal hihat
    that sound (when the hi-hat control pedal is pressed). The higher the value is set, the greater the volume. With a setting of “0,” no sound is produced. Set the volume level of other pads with the “Level” setting (KIT/INST/Level; p. 59)."

    Check out the Advanced Use section of your manual on page 54. The next few pages might be of use to you. If you don't have the manual, it can be downloaded from:

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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 14:04:15 (permalink)
    How very kind of you to check out the manual on my behalf.  I appreciate this very much.  Unfortunately, all this does is raise the volume on the internal module sound.  My problem is that the low velocity coming from the MIDI OUT on my module just doesn't pack enough oomph to trigger said articulation in several of the drum VSTs that I use.  I really need this note (G#3) to be in the 90-100 range.  I'm trying a product now called Bome's MIDI Translator that has been suggested over a gearslutz. Maybe this will work, maybe not, but it's worth a try.  I was almost positive that there was a way to do this in SONAR, but I guess not.

    Again, I can't thank you enough for being so helpful.

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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 17:56:47 (permalink)
    I did a bit of googling and found eDrum MIDI Mapper which is a utility which can, amongst other things, expand the velocity range of specific triggers. Dunno if it's right for you, but thought it might be worth a look.
    It's non-crippled shareware, $10 if you keep it.
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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 18:11:15 (permalink)
    Luteman


    I did a bit of googling and found eDrum MIDI Mapper which is a utility which can, amongst other things, expand the velocity range of specific triggers. Dunno if it's right for you, but thought it might be worth a look.
    It's non-crippled shareware, $10 if you keep it.
    HTH


    Great minds think alike, eh?  Yeah, I've been using that for years.  It used to be the only way to use edrums with Addictive Drums.  It's a great application and certainly worth more than $10.    I've been messing with it a lot, and you can MIDI learn the lowest and hardest hit, but I can't seem to figure out how to get it to increase a weak initial controller velocity. 

    But I've also been thinking about a way to isolate all the G#3s in Real Time with the Event Filter.  Thing is, I could use that thing so much better before it was graphic.  I wonder if there's a skin or some other way to make the EF like it was back in 5 or 6?

    Thanks for your help.

    Steve

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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 18:54:59 (permalink)
    You might be able to set the ( midi ) Trim level to achieve a scale factor and then echo through. I think it works real time, but it's been a while since I've tried  it. Easy enough to give it a try though.

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    Re:Set incoming velocity levels by note? 2011/01/30 20:16:32 (permalink)
    Is this something you can use a Drum Map for? I seem to recall there's a Pass Thru map which includes every note, and you could probably set the "Vel+" field there to 100 or something, which would hopefully trigger the synth correctly.
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