'Mythos' metal/hardrock project

no one has listened to the songs?

thanks for listening.  in terms of eq, im still very new at this and working it out.  on the bottom end is also one of the hardest areas to get right as well. 
it also doesnt help that im using the same guitar for all the tracks.  im gonna start using my brothers guitar to give it a more powerful sound. 
the drums i always seem to have trouble with, i know the snare doesnt stand out enough nor the kick.  i have tried to carve holes in the eq for them and it helps a little, but im still experimenting.  and for some reason at the end the fade always goes quicker on the drums than the guitars which i find weird. 
thanks for the tips and listening
miguel

thanks for listening mgh.  I am re recording the songs now, trying to adjust the sounds to get them all to sound fuller.  i kept listening to second seal and got frustrated with the guitars, they sounded really thin and trebly... on top of there was one 'would be' solo that i didnt like at all so im redoing that as well.

im glad someone likes my bass riffs! haha, its funny because steve harris and dave murray are my heroes. 

im using session drummer 3 by the way, and they werent kidding when they said mixing drums is an art on its own.

anyways im off to work on them some more along with the other 5 songs to complete the 7 song album

thanks for listening everyone!

miguel

Really good musical ideas here. I like the old school metal style. The harmonies are spot on, and the tracks build logically. Kind of reminds me of Starfox for the SNES. Does that date me?

First thing I noticed-- the playing is a little loose. You clearly have the chops, it's just a matter of perfect tracking. For more technical music like this, you need to be right on top of the beat. Did you record the guitars before or after you programmed the drums? Sometimes I find that playing to a click is more beneficial than playing with the full drum beat. And don't be afraid to do multiple takes, or just sections of a song, and blend them later. It's better to have a mistake-free recording than the bragging rights that you did it all in one take.

I'll preface the rest of my post with my intentions of supporting a more cohesive mix. You have the drum tracks, several guitar tracks, and the bass-- all kind of doing different things in the mix. Please take the following as constructive criticism.

If I'm not mistaken, session drummer has pre-processed drum samples, so it should be fairly easy to mix them as a kit. The challenge will be matching the drums to fit with the feel of the track. That is what's lacking here.

The kick is good as is. Good thump and presence.

The snare is problematic. There's too much reverb, and for my taste, not enough attack of the hit. If you have a compressor on the track, try increasing the attack time so the hit will be more distinguishable. If you don't have compression on it, that's ok, it's not a deal-breaker. The reverb sounds too 80's though, and doesn't match the reverb of any other track in the mix, which is what gives the whole track a fake-drum vibe. The snare sound often makes or breaks a mix. If you like the rawness of the other tracks, you need to match the snare to that rawness. Also, is it just me, or is the snare panned to the left about 30%? Straight up the center is more traditional.

Assuming you can play with the overheads, you need to add a roomy reverb to the OH tracks. When the (one?) cymbal crashes, it's completely isolated about 50% to the left. I need to hear some of that on the right channel as well. I think there are some "room emulator" plugins out there that can accomplish this, or a stereo-delay type plugin that will add a reverb-like delay trail on the other side of the stereo field. I used to program drums with Fruity Loops, and the stereo-delay type plugin was essential to giving a more authentic sound to the cymbals.

The tone of the bass is a little weak compared to the kick drum. The kick is in-your-face thumpy, but the bass tone is rounded like Geddy Lee's. For this style, I prefer a deep, gritty bass tone that provides a power backing to the guitars, as opposed to a rounded one that plays along side the guitars. I'd like to hear some cuts between 500hz and 1khz, and some boosts between 5k-8k.

The tone of the guitar is interesting. Very ballsy, but a bit muffled. I would usually never recommend doing this, but if you add another 5-7% drive (distortion) to your tone, I think it will sound MUCH heavier (as intended?). They need some clarity on the high end also. There's sweet spots for every tone, but somewhere between 5-8k, you can bring the guitar sound forward without it actually being louder.

Keep it up and you'll figure it out. Mixing is always an uphill climb.

Superior 2.0 is fantastic, but you're dealing with unprocessed samples, so you'll be entering a mixing world far more complex than you're used to. Definitely worth making the switch, just don't expect it to be easy.

For your guitar tone delimma, you might try recording a third and fourth guitar track with a new tone that has more drive and more bass. Drop the volume on those new tracks 5 db, and pan them the same as your current guitar tracks. That might give the palm mutes some more beef. You could also use that same double-tracking technique with your current tone, but change the pickup switch on your guitar to the middle position. Drop those tracks a few db behind your main guitar tracks, and that will help.

But a good bass tone is more integral in feeling those palm mutes than the guitar tone itself. Bass tone is highly tweakable, so it doesn't matter that your bass has a thin sound, you just have to do more to make it thick. There's some good bass rumble in the 90-100hz range, some good definition around 400hz, and some good presence freq's around 3k and 5k. Look between 500hz and 1k to make some cuts, or one big cut, to drop that rounded feeling of the tone. Put some moderate compression behind the EQ to even out the highs and the lows.

I just ordered a peavey windsor studio amp and an sm57 mic, along with abbey road modern drums... i liked the sound of it better than SD2.0 and its much simpler to use.

I will posting up the songs again along with one or two new ones when theyre all re recorded and such.

thanks