Track grouping in X1 isn't easy like in 8.5

It was easier and more functional in 8xx. However, we have been told that a lot of that functionality was unintended and that many were simply incapable of the mouse control it took to use it.

Also with no track selected if you hold the cntrl key and change a parameter ALL the parameters will change in every unselected track. It's kie there's a default quick group of all tracks if none are selected.

Also keep in mind that changes are only made to the same track type so if you change something on an audio track, only audio tracks are affected. Same with MIDI tracks.

And bus changes only work with other buses, and all buses are affected since you can't select buses.

Scott

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FastBikerBoy


Select the tracks you want to control and the hold the ctrl key while you move the parameter you want to change. Works on everything from volume,etc to track ins & outs.

This works just like the old "quick groups". It seems like they could take it one step further and let all those tracks be grouped when assigning a group color to one of those tracks. Unfortunately you have to select them one at a time.

gmp

FastBikerBoy


Select the tracks you want to control and the hold the ctrl key while you move the parameter you want to change. Works on everything from volume,etc to track ins & outs.

This works just like the old "quick groups". It seems like they could take it one step further and let all those tracks be grouped when assigning a group color to one of those tracks. Unfortunately you have to select them one at a time.

There are many problems with X1 but there are also many myths. One of which is the above. you don't have to select them one at a time at all.

Quick groups are improved in that you can now quick group just about everything in the track whereas in 8.x you couldn't group Input, Output, Send selection etc etc.

To make a permanent group using quick groups in X1.............

Select the tracks you wish to group controls in. Right click on the control you wish to group and select save. Move onto the next control and repeat.

I can't see how that's any harder than in 8.x - I'd call it an improvement because of the added controls. Each to their own though.

No worries. The trouble is X1 is quite buggy that's true, but there is also lots of mis-information out there too. It's just a matter of sifting through that to get to the facts.

I don't know about being "really up on this" - I'm just trying to learn/use it as best I can.

The crash situation seems very hard to pin down. I and others are using it without many, if any crashes at all, while others are reporting that it's unusable. It's very hard to make any sense of TBH.

I can only report things as I find them. There are others that will do the same - and plenty of others complaining that don't even own or use the program.

I personally am using it for working on several projects that started life in 8.3, have had a little editing in 8.5 (I got it on the free upgrade deal so didn't use it for long) and I'm finishing them in X1. I've also started projects in X1 that I am yet to finish. So far without any troubles other than the known bugs, which are annoyances rather than show stoppers (for me)

I don't use a whole load of automation envelopes. I tend to use what I need per track which tends to be volume, pan, some EQ and other effects automation including send levels. Somwhere between 2 & 8 envelopes per track would be about average for me. Occasionally it's more but not very often. I haven't had any crashes in my normal use at all.

The only crash I have had was when I was experimenting with buss automation copy & paste. It was in a discussion with another user on here (ba_midi) when we were trying to track down the behaviour of a bug.

If you are using X1 at the moment and it seems stable apart from projects from 8.x with lots of envelopes you might be on to one of the problems. My advice would be to work on a copy of any important projects so if something does go wrong you have something to go back to.

In my experience X1 is stable. That's not to say there aren't bugs 'cos there are. Some are obvious and annoying, others are quirky, some are easily worked around once you are aware of them and some are a PITA.

Sorry I can't be more help but as I said there doesn't seem to be any sort of pattern to how it behaves for people. I'm on a supposedly under-powered system and it works for me, others are on powerful systems and get nothing but problems. I gave up trying to make sense of computers and software a long while ago. Illogical logic is how I'd describe them.

Hopefully X1b will sort out most of the bugs. Roll on Feb/March.

to make a permanent group using quick groups in X1............. 

Select the tracks you wish to group controls in. Right click on the control
 you wish to group and select save. Move onto the next control and repeat. 

I can't see how that's any harder than in 8.x - I'd call it an improvement because of the added controls. Each to their own though. 

I still don't understand how having to select each control "after it's already been selected by control clicking it" and and having to repeat the process 10 + times for a group of BGV's.   Am i mssing something obvious?

FBB, I see a 'save' command but no 'save as'. Same there? Pretty slick either way and thanks for the tip.

revsnd


A great example of thinking there may be a bug, or poor design, and it's just  a different way of working.

That should be the title of a sticky thread at the top of the forum IMO.