Easy, simple, fast and accurate way to split a clip

Hi,

I thought it would be good to have a discussion about this feature that is present in Sonar 8.5 and would be nice in X1. I would say, it is a missing part of the Smart tool that would make many situations easier for us.

See the video from 8.5
http://www.screencast.com...4927-b4c4-673506a45078

I am using Free edit tool (similar to Smart tool, I think) and Aim assist in the vid.

I hit "S" key to split the clips. They split in the cursor position, not in the Now time position and this is absolutely unrelated to what is the active track or clip. Only the position of the cursor, the vertical blinking line , matters.

This is much quicker and more accurate and flexible than the current possibilities we have in X1
- split at now time
- hold ALT and left click.

I mean, this would be great to have in X1, incorporated in the "selection" tool that appears in the lower UPPER part of an audio or MIDI clip in TV. 

It works in Sonar 8.5, so it should not be so hard to implement in X1 as well.

Hi Larry,

Yes, you have understood me right. try it for yourself in 8.5 to feel the difference between Split at now time, ALT+click and this "split at cursor" thing. I mean, for me "split at cursor" is the most logical way to do a split.

"split at now time" and "split at the cursor" (shown in the video) are two different things.
The shortcomings of Split at now time tool are for example:

Split at now time works in the active track, so you have to select a track first and then split at now time, which requires more clicks and mouse moves.
Split at now time cannot be used during playback
One has to move the Now time cursor in order to split a clip and moving the Now time is not always handy. 

Holding the ALT key and then clicking in the location where I want to split the clip is not the same as having the cursor in the right position first and then splitting the clip. It is like "measure first, then cut" approach :)

Besides, the cursor could be used also for TAB to transient. In X1, when you hit the TAB key, Now time moves to the nearest transient in a active track. But that is it. You can then use the Split at now time tool to split the clip in the position of the transient but how would you select a portion of a clip starting right in the position of the transient? Currently, there is no way how to do it in Sonar X1, nor in Sonar 8.5.

  I watched a video about mixing techniques using PT7. And the engineer there was cleaning drums tracks - removing bleed from other drums. He was using TAB to transient tool. He tabbed to the transient, and while holding SHIFT  he clicked to a part of the clip left from the transient, so he selected a portion of the clip up to the transient. He then deleted that portion of the clip because he wanted to have only the snare audio in that track and no bleed from other drums.

Larry,

here is my video response :) and with audio ;) Hope you will understand what I am saying there :)

http://www.screencast.com...4908-8756-5c85308edd8d

Holding ALT and clicking is almost the same as the Free edit tool in Sonar 8.5, you will see in the video. But I think the cursor of the free edit tool provides higher precision of where the split is going to be.

It is not such a deal, but still, I like the way in Sonar 8.5 more ;)

TAB to transient: well, I think I found out how to achieve the same as in PT, but it requires one additional click than in PT. :)

Maybe I will show you in the next video. :)

You can do the "tab to transient" thing in 8.5.3 and I suspect it will eventually work in X1.

Thanks Marek, Really appreciate your time.