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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 13:05:45
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wintaper
since PT has no "freeze", once you're maxed out, that's it.
Not exactly. Route all of your instruments (or any tracks with lots of plugins) into new audio tracks, arm+hit record and you can print them all in one pass. Now make all of the original tracks inactive and you'll get your CPU back.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 13:11:19
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mudgel
Pro Tools pre Version 9 with all the hardware DSP probably didn't need to be 64 bit.
now that its not tied to hardware anymore being 32 bit only is a big drawback because without the DSP working for you you really need the RAM that only 64 bit can give you.
It doesn't really work that way. You don't need more RAM if you have less processing power. The two are somewhat related but not in that way. And another thing, a modern Intel CPU actually gives you more power than the TDM DSP cards do. Only when you get up to something like a HD7 does the DSP beat the native CPU.
Its a shame because I'd jump today if PT9 was 64 bit
What do you think having PT IN 64 bit give you more than the way it is currently? If I wanted to use PT 9 with RAM heavy synths (and maybe even just with CPU heavy synths) I would use Vienna Ensemble Pro. This removes the ram limitation and allows you to use VST plugins.
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Surely the TDM DSP cards have onboard RAM.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 13:14:17
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mike_mccue
"I also suspect, just a suspicion mind you, that the business model and Japanese business culture drove the release date of X1."
I don't regard Japanese business culture as being characterized by a tendency to rush product out on a fiscal schedule when it is full of bugs and non functionality.
It is a shameful practice and Japanese culture has a well established protocol for discouraging dishonorable business practice.
I imagine a vast disconnect between Roland Japan and Cakewalk.
best regards,
mike
Culture may have played a role. Something certainly mucked things up.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 14:19:46
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wintaper
since PT has no "freeze", once you're maxed out, that's it.
Not exactly. Route all of your instruments (or any tracks with lots of plugins) into new audio tracks, arm+hit record and you can print them all in one pass. Now make all of the original tracks inactive and you'll get your CPU back.
Yeah, that's the workaround - rather draconian - but luckily I'm not a big synth user
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 15:19:43
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rabeach
Surely the TDM DSP cards have onboard RAM.
Maybe 2 MB total. (That is not a typo). DSP chips have never been about memory. They are about processing power but these days they are completely outperformed by the onboard Floating Point Units of modern CPUs. That doesn't mean that they are entirely useless. They have the advantage of guaranteed performance and they are, as is the case with PT HD cards, stackable. As far as I know, the only single unit system that can still compete with native computing purely from a processing power point of view is the Fairlight CC-1 card which is FPGA based. Keep in mind that a basic Fairlight Xynergi system comes at 18.000$ last time I checked. (This isn't just the card though as it isn't sold separately). Maybe the Sydec Soundscape system (Now SSL MX4) also comes close but only if you keep in mind the very low latency figures which are hard to match on a native system. Don't even get me started on the UAD cards and how they are not much more than glorified dongles... UnderTow
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 15:43:15
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"Don't even get me started on the UAD cards and how they are not much more than glorified dongles..."
No please do, I've been thinking about getting a UAD 2
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 16:25:30
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Kroneborge
"Don't even get me started on the UAD cards and how they are not much more than glorified dongles..."
No please do, I've been thinking about getting a UAD 2
If you like the plugins, go for it but do not buy a UAD card for the processing. Your CPU is many times more powerful that any UAD card. UnderTow
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 16:28:49
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UnderTow
rabeach
Surely the TDM DSP cards have onboard RAM.
Maybe 2 MB total. (That is not a typo). DSP chips have never been about memory. They are about processing power but these days they are completely outperformed by the onboard Floating Point Units of modern CPUs. That doesn't mean that they are entirely useless. They have the advantage of guaranteed performance and they are, as is the case with PT HD cards, stackable.
As far as I know, the only single unit system that can still compete with native computing purely from a processing power point of view is the Fairlight CC-1 card which is FPGA based. Keep in mind that a basic Fairlight Xynergi system comes at 18.000$ last time I checked. (This isn't just the card though as it isn't sold separately). Maybe the Sydec Soundscape system (Now SSL MX4) also comes close but only if you keep in mind the very low latency figures which are hard to match on a native system.
Don't even get me started on the UAD cards and how they are not much more than glorified dongles...
UnderTow
Very informative post thanks
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 17:33:16
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mike_mccue
"I also suspect, just a suspicion mind you, that the business model and Japanese business culture drove the release date of X1."
I don't regard Japanese business culture as being characterized by a tendency to rush product out on a fiscal schedule when it is full of bugs and non functionality.
It is a shameful practice and Japanese culture has a well established protocol for discouraging dishonorable business practice.
I imagine a vast disconnect between Roland Japan and Cakewalk.
best regards,
mike
I interviewed with a very large Japanese company (Hitachi) back in the 1990's and one thing they did was fully explain their business philosophy compared to American companies. I was even required to view a video on the company where this was explained! What it boiled down to was, the Japanese companies plan long term and do not live and die by the quarterly report. They come up with a design, and a release date and they just plod along developing that design/product making slight adjustments along the way but always focusing on the end result and not paying too much mind to distractions like those quarterly reports, along the way. In the end, the product emerges as designed and is marketed. A gross over simplification but the important part is American companies are interested far too much in quarterly reports while the Japanese companies are interested in long term results.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 18:01:24
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That is precisely what has done everything all worgn here...
I used to work in a place that actually had their marketing guys pumping sales of product that did not even reach prototype stage yet
When one thinks in terms of a long term goal vs quarterly reporting there is much more of a chance that you are not going to see these serious sorts of marketing mistakes being made. It may also work to educate investors to think in terms of customer base rather than their dividends only...after all it is not going to do them much good if their stocks go down in value either...
Now the question should be..how are they going to fix the problem...
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 18:32:48
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mike_mccue
"I also suspect, just a suspicion mind you, that the business model and Japanese business culture drove the release date of X1."
I don't regard Japanese business culture as being characterized by a tendency to rush product out on a fiscal schedule when it is full of bugs and non functionality.
It is a shameful practice and Japanese culture has a well established protocol for discouraging dishonorable business practice.
I imagine a vast disconnect between Roland Japan and Cakewalk.
best regards,
mike
I interviewed with a very large Japanese company (Hitachi) back in the 1990's and one thing they did was fully explain their business philosophy compared to American companies.
I was even required to view a video on the company where this was explained!
What it boiled down to was, the Japanese companies plan long term and do not live and die by the quarterly report.
They come up with a design, and a release date and they just plod along developing that design/product making slight adjustments along the way but always focusing on the end result and not paying too much mind to distractions like those quarterly reports, along the way.
In the end, the product emerges as designed and is marketed.
A gross over simplification but the important part is American companies are interested far too much in quarterly reports while the Japanese companies are interested in long term results.
I think you've really seen a turn this way (for the worst) in many companies, and this directly resulted in the housing crisis etc. People focusing on short term gain/bonuses but creating big problems (and sinking the economy) long term.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 19:18:58
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I can't let this pass - it is totally off topic, but people were spreading mis-information about Toyota on this thread. The US Department of Transportation has exonerated Toyota in its investigation of electronic problems related to unintended acceleration. This was announced about a week ago. They had NASA scientists investigating this and they couldn't find any problems whatsoever. If you don't beleive me just google it. I don't work for Toyota but have tremendous respect for the company for changing the world of manufacturing - for the better. Unfortunately for Toyota, their sales have suffered a little. In the eyes of the public you are guilty until proven innocent, and then, sometimes, you are still guilty. Yes the Japanese kick ass as far as quality, and I'm sure X1's issues didn't make Roland happy.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 19:32:56
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@Kroneborge
+1
I couldn't agree more.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 21:37:59
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Kroneborge
"Don't even get me started on the UAD cards and how they are not much more than glorified dongles..."
No please do, I've been thinking about getting a UAD 2
The UAD plugins rock. The EMT 140 Plate Reverb, The 1176LN Limiter and the Fairchild 670 compressor are awesome. The offloading of the processing frees your cpu to do more important things. But really, its about the sound - and they sound great. I've got a UAD2 Quad and couldn't be happier. PS: To keep it on-topic ... the UAD2 card works *much* better with Sonar than Pro-Tools, probably due to the VST wrappers necessary to run UAD plugs with PT. UA have promised native RTAS implementation - the question is when. But the quality of the plugs is superb.
post edited by wintaper - 2011/02/16 21:41:27
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/16 21:39:26
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If I want quality, I buy Japanese, My Subaru is made in Japan, it has never had any issues. The ones made in the US seem to have the problems. I tried a few used Fender Tele's in a store the other day. The ones made in Japan were the better models. They remind me more of the old vitage Fenders. Roland gear, like Yamaha, will last forever, Mackie mixers all die after a few years. They lost the war, but they won the battle. And that goes for you Brits too. What did you do to Marshall amps?
I was excited about pro tools 9 , seemed we could now use it without the hardare. More I read the more I'm happy with Sonar. I just had a round about with Cubase, forget it. This is a better user forum. Without a good forum it's impossible to learn how this stuff works.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 12:21:35
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mike_mccue
"I also suspect, just a suspicion mind you, that the business model and Japanese business culture drove the release date of X1."
I don't regard Japanese business culture as being characterized by a tendency to rush product out on a fiscal schedule when it is full of bugs and non functionality.
It is a shameful practice and Japanese culture has a well established protocol for discouraging dishonorable business practice.
I imagine a vast disconnect between Roland Japan and Cakewalk.
best regards,
mike
Mike:
Actually, things have morphed a bit regarding the dishonorable definition (or the influence of its meaning).
There are others, but Toyota is a relatively new example (yes, there are more and other yen making companies). Fumio Matsuda, who is like the Ralph Nader of the Japanese world, has produced documents (and verified by the LA times), that Toyota knew of the problems, did nothing, and then delayed the corrective action.
When I stated the above, I implied that the drive was yen, pure and simple, but with a Japanese management twist.
Things have changed. Honor is not primary anymore.
I thought this video might be relevant to Japanese business culture: http://www.wimp.com/sawceo/ UnderTow
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Sylvan
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 15:32:35
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How can any DAW be any better or worse than any other DAW when it comes to tracking? I have read several times in this thread that Pro Tools is better for tracking than SONAR. I would argue that any DAW (for example: SONAR, Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, Reaper, etc...) is on the same level playing field for tracking.
Wouldn't any difference in tracking be about your room, your mic pres, your mics, your interface, etc... rather than the DAW storing your digital data to hard disk?
Then the whole mixing and editing thing. I suppose you could argue about routing schemes work flow, but in the end, would that not be more about personal taste than one DAW being better than the other?
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 15:50:04
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Wouldn't any difference in tracking be about your room, your mic pres, your mics, your interface, etc... rather than the DAW storing your digital data to hard disk? Hi Charles, I think that "tracking" is lumping the whole recording experience together (full takes, overdubs, punch-ins, multiple takes, comping, etc).
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 15:54:33
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The US Department of Transportation has exonerated Toyota in its investigation of electronic problems related to unintended acceleration. This was announced about a week ago. They had NASA scientists investigating this and they couldn't find any problems whatsoever. Not sure there was not a vested interest for the US Department of Transportation to find no fault and NASA scientist that makes me grin. Finding no problems certainly doesn't prove no problem exists. NASA scientist sorry but that is a LOL event for sure. NASA yea they should be the ones to investigate automotive control scenarios. That aside there were unintended acceleration events with the likely cause being electronic control.
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Sylvan
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 16:03:32
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Jim Roseberry
Wouldn't any difference in tracking be about your room, your mic pres, your mics, your interface, etc... rather than the DAW storing your digital data to hard disk?
Hi Charles,
I think that "tracking" is lumping the whole recording experience together (full takes, overdubs, punch-ins, multiple takes, comping, etc).
Thank you Jim, I did not see it from that angle. I guess I cannot comment on that then because I have never used Pro Tools for any major tracking. I have only used Pro Tools for pressing record and tracking without any overdubs or punch-ins. But I can say that my SONAR experience with tracking has been excellent. I fly through punch-ins, overdubs, etc... Since it works so well for me, I never felt the need to explore other DAWs.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 16:07:14
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Sylvan
How can any DAW be any better or worse than any other DAW when it comes to tracking? I have read several times in this thread that Pro Tools is better for tracking than SONAR. I would argue that any DAW (for example: SONAR, Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, Reaper, etc...) is on the same level playing field for tracking.
Well with a PT HD system you could have dozens of heavy plugins running with near zero latency and a 100% responsive system. That is quite an advantage. Native is getting there but not quite as solid yet as these DSP/FPGA based systems yet. Wouldn't any difference in tracking be about your room, your mic pres, your mics, your interface, etc... rather than the DAW storing your digital data to hard disk?
Then the whole mixing and editing thing. I suppose you could argue about routing schemes work flow, but in the end, would that not be more about personal taste than one DAW being better than the other?
No. The automation alone makes PT superior to Sonar for mixing, then there are VCA groups, beat detective, elastic audio, the whole grouping scheme, session data imports, more powerful routing, a better Smart Tool etc etc but I am too lazy to try to put into words what ultimately you have to experience to really understand so I would say, go and see how things work in a full-blown PT-HD studio with a skilled and experienced PT engineer. Of course all this power comes at a substantial cost... UnderTow
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 20:59:21
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rabeach
The US Department of Transportation has exonerated Toyota in its investigation of electronic problems related to unintended acceleration. This was announced about a week ago. They had NASA scientists investigating this and they couldn't find any problems whatsoever.
Not sure there was not a vested interest for the US Department of Transportation to find no fault and NASA scientist that makes me grin. Finding no problems certainly doesn't prove no problem exists. NASA scientist sorry but that is a LOL event for sure. NASA yea they should be the ones to investigate automotive control scenarios. That aside there were unintended acceleration events with the likely cause being electronic control.
It wasn't just NASA engineers that were studying the problem for over 9 months. Like I said before - don't just take it from me, google it and find out for yourself and come to your own conclusions. (of course it could all just be a conspiracy, right?  ) I'm not sure what kind of vested interest you were thinking about, but it seems that since the US government owns GM they would have a vested interest in seeing Toyota fail.
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 21:49:31
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Sylvan
How can any DAW be any better or worse than any other DAW when it comes to tracking? I have read several times in this thread that Pro Tools is better for tracking than SONAR. I would argue that any DAW (for example: SONAR, Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, Reaper, etc...) is on the same level playing field for tracking.
Wouldn't any difference in tracking be about your room, your mic pres, your mics, your interface, etc... rather than the DAW storing your digital data to hard disk?
Then the whole mixing and editing thing. I suppose you could argue about routing schemes work flow, but in the end, would that not be more about personal taste than one DAW being better than the other?
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/02/17 22:25:30
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Kroneborge
"Don't even get me started on the UAD cards and how they are not much more than glorified dongles..."
No please do, I've been thinking about getting a UAD 2
When I was using a single core AMD Athlon 1.8 GHz machine with Sonar and BFD1.5 drums I used my 3 UAD-1 cards a lot - I was running them near maximum. Now that I have a dual core Pentium D 3 GHz running Win 7 with 6 Gb RAM I have more than enough CPU to run BFD2 and quite a few soft synths, and hardly use the UAD plugins anymore. The argument for getting more processing power doesn't hold anymore. For the cost of a UAD-2 Duo you can buy a new powerful machine, or maybe for the price of UAD-2 Solo just a very fast CPU and motherboard. As for emulating real hardware, I'm over that, the interfaces suck and often I can't quite get the sound I want. I'm back to using primarily Sonitus. Yeah they sound great, maybe, but so do most of the Sonar plugins. Brett
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/04/17 06:23:01
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ive been using protools 9 now for about a week or two and honestly, I havent opened up sonar yet. pt9 eliminates latency for me down to near o. sonar was 5.3 at its best.
as for audio tracking.. its no contest..
but for synth stuff, id use x1. and who dosent love fast bounce? heh
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/04/17 06:37:49
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Sonar X1 will do the work like no other software for sure :)
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Re:Anyone here tried Pro Tools 9 to compare to X1
2011/04/17 07:32:13
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I'm waiting for my PT9-HD software to arrive. I'll see how the software goes with my current hardware. If I like it enough I'll probably invest in some HD hardware.
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