X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement?

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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2011/02/17 11:01:18 (permalink)
Yeah I also use the submaster L + R bit. I'm not sure it actually makes a difference but it sounds like it to me too.
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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2011/02/17 16:42:50 (permalink)
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For loudness "maximizing" I find that the PX-64 percussion strip is terrific. Enable both of the saturations, and adjust to taste.  Its compressor can be used to tame peaks and the eq can smooth things out.

I found the Tube Leveler to be too harsh I never use it.  But the PX-64 is nice, give it a try.


Cool...I have to check that out...thanks!

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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2011/02/17 21:11:55 (permalink)
As someone suggested, I downloaded and installed the 10 full demo of Ozone 4.  I just spent about 2 hours playing with it.

Oh man, I love this thing!  Crap, now I gotta find the coin to buy it!

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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor techniques? 2011/06/04 12:51:24 (permalink)
I've found that putting the lp-64 on my mixes can do some very strange things to them. For example, I recently mixed an R&B thing with a horn section that I mixed relatively low. when I put the lp64 in the master bus and checked "light mastering" the horns were suddenly way up front.

What makes me crazy is when I solo any of the compressor's individual bands, it's such a narrow band, I'm not sure what I've got.

Can anyone tell me some basic ways to operate this plug?
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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2013/05/06 08:34:14 (permalink)
Any one with tips on how 2 effectively use the LP64 Multiband Compressor in Mastering?
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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2013/05/06 09:27:56 (permalink)
Multiband Compressors are used generally when you cannot fix something in the mix. If you need to use a multiband compressor, then there is usually something wrong with your mix.

Odus, there are no right or wrong settings for this. You listen to the song being mastered in tuned room and then your ears will tell you what needs to be done. If I need to use a multiband compressor, I will ask the client to fix what ever the problem is in the mix.

Multiband comps are not generally used in mastering Odus. its wide misunderstanding that they are, but until you understand what they do, then you'll understand why there not used.

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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2013/05/06 11:19:01 (permalink)
Thanks.
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Re:X1's LP-64 Multiband Compressor - Placement? 2013/12/29 02:33:50 (permalink)
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The LP-64 is a Linear Phase processor and should have less coloration than the Sonitus, and therefore to me is more useful for mastering purposes. However I don't find the Sonitus to have all that much color to begin with. Either way, the linear phase characteristics of the LP-64 should make its employment less noticeable when used judiciously on a master mix.

While true that Multiband compressors are often used to fix a mix where things could perhaps be corrected prior to mastering, IMO they have their legitimate uses in both mastering and even in the mix process. Now you're likely not going to use a MB compressor on an individual track but they can be quite useful on groups of tracks or buses (drums, keys, etc).

MB compressors can sometimes do wonders on things like drum buses or full range loops with inherent problems or unwanted characteristics. In a way, you can use the MB comp as a kind of dynamic EQ processor. Basically you can shape the overall tone of a bus (or mix) but in a way rather different than using a traditional EQ in that its effects can be tailored to respond to only certain kinds and level of input - in the same way a compressor in general can be tailored to respond to input.

Anyway, I'd say play around with it. Obviously if you are "stuck" with something delivered that doesn't sound quite right to you  - but also if you are having trouble getting a group of instruments to have the tonal "shape" you want.

As was mentioned, don't track with a linear phase plugin enabled because they introduce lots of latency, but in the purely mixing or mastering phase they are perfectly usable.

Regarding Boost 11, and limiters in general: IMO they should be used very judiciously and sparingly. My own rule of thumb is that if I'm having to shave off more than, say,  3db of the louder peaks to get the desired volume level, then I need to go back to the mix itself (if possible) and work on basic EQ and compression elements. Limiters are a dangerous thing. Like salt in cooking  - they can seem great at first, but are liable to squeeze all the dynamics out of a mix and make the whole thing fatiguing to listen to.

But a little limiting never hurt anyone IMHO and is often necessary to get the desired loudness of an overall mix (and sometimes of a particular bus). Good thing is that the less the limiter has to work, the less any ill effects it has on the sound will be heard and/or noticed.

As I sometimes say, "Make music, not sausages".

The only place that I have found this to be useful is when I'm relying on drum overheads for a significant fraction of my drum sound. With a linear phase MB comp you can bring out some of the subtleties much better and balance the toms and bass with the jangly stuff. 
 
I don't do much beat, DJ or hip-hop stuff though, where I can imagine you can get in deep with live recorded material

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