bapu


I see it was a "Bain analysis"

Blame it on the Beagle.

I have absolutely nothing to do with declining CD sales and limited download sales.
 
 
 
as far as you know.

marcos69

Jonbouy

I mean I could run a chapeau shop or something. You know, like, "Would you... what size do you wear, sir?"

And then you answer me: "Uh... seven and a quarter."

"I think we have that." See, something like that I could do.

Yeah, do you think you'd be happy doing that?

I dunno, what are the hours?...

What Jon said made perfect sense to me.

I remember getting £68,000 in the '70;s as my part of an advance on a Prog Rock project that the label pulled the plug on in mid production.

Although of course the money came in handy I wasn't particularly happy that I received that amount of money for essentially doing nothing, I remember more about being devastated that the project didn't get seen through to the end and released.  I feel sure that the record company would have got a better return on its investment seeing it through than they did by abandoning it.

That is really the only experience I've had of the 'industry' taking part in what I was doing.  I don't remember the 'industry' being involved in keeping my diary fully booked or fulfilling those bookings, that if I remember rightly was pretty much solely down to me and any figures I generated doing that probably amount to no more than taking a pee in the ocean, but at least it's my pee in their ocean not the other way round.

And so it continues to be wherever my next gig comes from I don't expect the 'industry' to be taking part.

To me this 'industry' lark is just a mythical dark figure to point the finger at when I'm not taking responsibility for my own destiny.

Having said that I've always just been a travelling minstrel I'm sure there are many with a much more vested interest in the industry and I'm sure many of those are feeling the pinch just now.

edit: added last paragraph.

bapu

Jonbouy

To me this 'industry' lark is just a mythical dark figure to point the finger at when I'm not taking responsibility for my own destiny. 

+1

This is quite true...

You mean this:

"NEW YORK (Billboard) - A veteran music executive has lambasted the Grammy Awards as "a series of hypocrisies and contradictions," in a full-page New York Times advertisement that ran a week after last Sunday's annual ceremony. Steve Stoute's open letter to Grammy organizers ripped the organization and its 12,000-odd voters for snubbing Eminem and Justin Bieber at this year's ceremony, as well as Eminem and Kanye West at past events.
"Over the course of my 20-year history as an executive in the music business and as the owner of a firm that specializes in in-culture advertising, I have come to the conclusion that the Grammy Awards have clearly lost touch with contemporary popular culture," wrote Stoute, who is currently CEO of the marketing company Translation.
"Unfortunately, the awards show has become a series of hypocrisies and contradictions, leaving me to question why any contemporary popular artist would even participate."
Eminem, this year's leading contender, lost in most of the major categories for which he was nominated. Two-time nominee Bieber went home empty-handed and disappointed. Both West and Eminem have lost the coveted album of the year race multiple times.
"We must acknowledge the massive cultural impact of Eminem and Kanye West and how their music is shaping, influencing and defining the voice of a generation," Stoute wrote.
As for Bieber, he wrote, "How is it that Justin Bieber, an artist that defines what it means to be a modern artist, did not win Best New Artist?" (That award went to singer/bassist Esperanza Spalding.)
Stoute noted a connection between performers and winners, citing Arcade Fire's surprise album of the year win just after they had finished their performance.
"Does the Grammys intentionally use artists for their celebrity, popularity and cultural appeal when they already know the winners and then program a show against this expectation?"
There was no immediate reaction from the Recording Academy. Last Sunday's show, despite or because of the shocks, was the highest rated in a decade."


That guy's new company helps sell candy bars and sneakers... and he is sorely mistaken that any of what he is speaking of amounts to"culture".

Culture is not hi-brow, nor is it lo-brow... it's shared by everyone and defined by the population.

People whom pretend to understand culture in an attempt to help pimp mass produced goods are simply living in make believe land...  They are drinking the Kool-Aid... and getting paid to say it tastes better than last years Kool Aid.

The trend with the Grammys is that regardless of the fact that a few people in the music production business make mass produced least common denominator music to help sell least common denominator mass produced products the majority of people that work in the music production field continue to vote for music they personally enjoy and musicians they personally admire.

That's why each year, most of the grammy awards are presented "off camera" and a few high profile categories have surprise winners.

Because by and large... most people that work in the music production business still enjoy being thrilled by music... even if they make exceedingly boring broad base mass produced industrial grade music to pay their bills.

The guy is just whining because this year's Grammys left his estimation of what constitutes culture as seeming mis calculated and incorrect.

It's gone a be a tougher year to sell candy bars, soft drinks, and sneakers.... so what... big deal.

He should have seen it coming... X1 changed everything.


best regards,
mike

mike_mccue


You mean this:

...As for Bieber, he wrote, "How is it that Justin Bieber, an artist that defines what it means to be a modern artist, did not win Best New Artist?" (That award went to singer/bassist Esperanza Spalding.) 
...

As was said in the Grammies thread, it was good to see that the Best New Artist award went to a real musician this time!

When I consider that the guy is a purveyor of culture I find it ironic that he doesn't know the difference between modern and contemporary.

That's the kind of mistake you'd expect from a lay person but not a professional.

ROLL OVER.... Beethoven

Karyn

musicman100


ROLL OVER.... Beethoven

That sounds like it could make a good song,  you should be a musician...
 
 
 
 
... oh, wait..... 

I come from a long line of them well at least 99...