Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ?

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Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ?

Hi guys

Can any one help me figure this out ?

Ok so I am needing to upgrade my ammount of pres at the momment i have just the VS-700 so thats 8 ( I am useing all 8 now )

I am needing a tottal of at least 20 thats includeing the 8 i have in the Vs700.

12 of them will be just for my drum kit.

SO I was hopeing to buy 2 x Octo-captures and that would be me up to 20 pres BUT I spoke to roland and I am limited to conecting just one Octo-Capture.

So I would need an Octo-Capture  and another 8 mic pres.....

Is there any benifit for me to buy the Octo-capture at all then or would I be best to just buy 16 pre amps ?

I am a bit confused by all of this so I hope some one can help me at the momment I see above as beeing my options but I am open to other sugestions

Thanks for all your help

Norrie

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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/19 01:32:58 (permalink)
    I think it is a good question "not that you needed confirmation to your question being good" - prior to  the Octo being available I had already purchased a Behringer ADA which gave me an additonal eight for the same purpose you stated.  I connected via the digital in/out and was able to do what I needed to do... 
     
    So besides the Octo being a Roland product if your limited to one - What truly is the benefit???

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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/19 02:11:03 (permalink)
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    Hi guys

    Can any one help me figure this out ?

    Ok so I am needing to upgrade my ammount of pres at the momment i have just the VS-700 so thats 8 ( I am useing all 8 now )

    I am needing a tottal of at least 20 thats includeing the 8 i have in the Vs700.

    12 of them will be just for my drum kit.

    SO I was hopeing to buy 2 x Octo-captures and that would be me up to 20 pres BUT I spoke to roland and I am limited to conecting just one Octo-Capture.


    No you can't connect more than 2 Octa-Capture/VS-700R at the same time. In fact you cannot connect more than 1 sound card at a time. It is an ASIO limitation.

    The Octa-Capture and the VS-700R are both sound cards, obviously, cause they are connected to your computer via usb and handle all the audio. Fortunately, Roland figured how to connect TWO sound cards at the same time to get more I/O, BUT, only work with any combination of Octa-Capture/VS-700R.

    So, 1st, choose which sound card will complete your VS-700R the best:

    VS-700R = 8 mic pres, 8 adat inputs, (its 2 spdif inputs are needed to sinc the VS-700R, so can't be used to expand input number)  -  total= 16 more possible mic pres to your computer

    Octa-Capture= 8 mic pres, 2 spdif inputs  -  total= 10 more possible mic pres to your computer

    Then choose what will fill the optical connectors.

    Mic pres with aes/spdif converter? Check Joemeek twinQ, DBX 386, Art MPA II, API A2D, etc... or Google "spdif mic pre".  You'll get 2 mic pres.

    Mic pres with adat? Check Focusrite, Presonus, etc... or google "mic pre adat".  You'll get 8 mic pres.

    So I would need an Octo-Capture  and another 8 mic pres..... 
    Yes, an Octa-Capture and an adat preamp.

    Is there any benifit for me to buy the Octo-capture at all then or would I be best to just buy 16 pre amps ? 
    Where will you connect these 16 preamps? In your sound card? Yes. 


    So you need to expand your sound card first cause 1x VS-700R will only give room for 10 more preamps, MAX. 


    So you need an Octa-Capture for 8 more pres and 8 adat preamps, connected the VS-700R, for 16 more pres and a total of 24. (you  loose the 2 spdif inputs on the VS-700R, needed to sync the 2 units togheter).


    If you get another VS-700R and fill everything you'll get a $hit load of mic pres... 36 mic inputs...

    I am a bit confused by all of this so I hope some one can help me at the momment I see above as beeing my options but I am open to other sugestions

    Thanks for all your help

    Norrie
    Hope it was somewhat helpful!


    Edit: I made a mistake, actually, Roland suggest to use the Octa-Capture as the master clock, so the VS-700R use it's spdif/aes input to recieve the clock from the Octa, hence loosing its 2 digital input to connect something else.
    post edited by Dyonight - 2011/02/19 10:36:46
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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/19 04:08:29 (permalink)
    Cheers man I am right with you :)

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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/19 10:39:15 (permalink)
    So Norrie! Made up your mind? Did I aswered your question correctly?

    If there's anything not clear let me know and I'll do my best (or someone else!).
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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/19 18:24:44 (permalink)
    Hey man how you doing ?

    Yeah I am going to go with the Octo-capture and another 8pres :)

    Maybe later down the line I will get another VS700 that would be cool

    I am trying to find a way to get more Digital Coxial inputs / outupts at the momment for some of my out board gear.

    I would rather have them conected that way rather than useing up the preamps

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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/19 22:03:16 (permalink)
    How much spdif coaxial do you need?
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    Re:Whats the benifit of haveing a Octo-Capture over another set of 8 Pres ? 2011/02/20 20:33:32 (permalink)
    Dyonight


    How much spdif coaxial do you need?


    As many as I can get lol

    No really what I am needing is to set up my Voiceworks through Digital With one Coxial in and one out

    Then he same with my Vamp pro and Bass pro and If I could some left over for any other out board gear I buy that I would like to use that way to save on useing the Pre amps

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