Only Session Drummer 3 disappears after moving VST folder and rescan (Sonar X1 64bit) BUG?

Hello out there,

I can't repair the bug that Session Drummer 3 disappears from the list of selectable VSTi's in Sonar X1a after moving the VST folder to a better place. THe standart procedure of "re-scanning" and "resetting" VstPlugins in the Sonar X1 options brought back all others but not Session Drummer 3. And changing some of the Session Drummer 3 entries in the registry (win7) from the old to the new VstPlugin folder path won't help it either. After moving the Vst folder, Session Drummer 3 is still the only VstPlugin, which I wasn't able to reanimate in the list of VSTi in Sonar X1 Session.

There is also something absurd going on in the registry group of scannend VST plugins with Session Drummer 3. It seems that all other correctly registered plugins have about their normal count of about 20 keys and values, as I can see in regedit. But Session Drummer has only 2 entries, and one of them, the "isVst", is set to "0" while with all other plugins in the list the same key is set to "1" . But even trying to setting it "1" or adding some more other entries similar to the other plugin entries and rescanning then again is not waking it up. Only after  copying almost all the keys and values from Rex Player registry entries over to Session Drummer 3 does make it appear in the list of VSTi after another rescan. But after trying to choose it in a track, it still says Session Drummer 3 isn't installed properly. But thats not true. After erasing the complete registry part of Session Drummer 3 and rescanning the Vst folder, Sonar sets up the Session Drummer registry entries again, but still only this 2 values again. All other plugins work perfectly after moving vst folder and rescanning it. Even some troublemakers, which have needed a small path change in the registry are working now again. But Session Drummer 3 still doesn't want to work anymore?

Any other suggestion than re-installing? Because re-installing is very confusing in what it installs and what not and where. And by the try setting up everything correctly in the installer for installing Session Drummer 3 from DVD, it still wants to install 2 GB and wants to create new folders in the application root?? But I don't want to let it smash up anything else, I only set up to re-install Session Drummer into the same folders. So I have canceled it to not to loose old session-setups.

Any ideas? And hello 2 evrybody by the way :-) I'm newly registered but long term reader ;-)

Unless the VST is just a DLL file I make a habit of not moving my VST's around after they are installed.

I would just reinstall SONAR and tell it to install the files where you want or move your files back to where they were originally.

Ultimately, it's much easier to just add another scan path in the VST options.

lorneyb2
If I am not mistaken you should be able to do a custom install of just the session drummer by unchecking all the other components and the select where you want it installed to, but I could be wrong on this.

You're absolutely right. That's what I thought. As I have tried to describe above with my bad english :-) it was exactly what I wanted to do, but with coming to the end point of the installer telling me it would like to create all the main folders of Sonar. What has frighten me, because it would destroy the rest of the old installation.

@ BEATZM1D10T: I think, no, this is not the idea. I run DAWs since their beginning, and even before I run music sequencers. And in a professional enviroment it is all about flexibility and modular systems. It must be possible to switsch hard disks, to change root folders, to set up paths as you need. Otherwise you can't handle mulitple productions with one or even not with more than one machine. VST folders can be moved. This is not a big deal, normallywise. It is all about the host, or the plugin developer. In this case about the host and the plugin developer in one and the same creator. ;-)

Not sure but I think we need help  of a dev here. Or does anyone know a small app similar to fseventer on mac, what can log me the communications of a certain request? So I could follow what Sonar or Session Drummer tries to collect to get started.

The thing is, when I delete the 2 lines small registry entry of Session Drummer 3 in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory chain, it comes back after a rescan in Sonar Options or Vst Manager. But it recreates a wrong bulk of entries. It includes only 2 lines with "isVst" and" touch" as key. This is definitely wrong, because all other plugins recreate their entries correctly, with over 20 lines of keys and values.

Thanks mudgel for your input. I sad it here (very first sentense):

" can't repair the bug that Session Drummer 3 disappears from the list of selectable VSTi's in Sonar X1a after moving the VST folder to a better place. The standart procedure of "re-scanning" and "resetting" VstPlugins in the Sonar X1 options brought back all others but not Session Drummer 3"

What means, that I have shown Sonar the new folder, have pressed the "set Vst back to default" button and the "scan Vst folder" button. In this case he will scan the new set Vst folder with SD3 in it.

Mopomac

lorneyb2
If I am not mistaken you should be able to do a custom install of just the session drummer by unchecking all the other components and the select where you want it installed to, but I could be wrong on this.

You're absolutely right. That's what I thought. As I have tried to describe above with my bad english :-) it was exactly what I wanted to do, but with coming to the end point of the installer telling me it would like to create all the main folders of Sonar. What has frighten me, because it would destroy the rest of the old installation.

@ BEATZM1D10T: I think, no, this is not the idea. I run DAWs since their beginning, and even before I run music sequencers. And in a professional enviroment it is all about flexibility and modular systems. It must be possible to switsch hard disks, to change root folders, to set up paths as you need. Otherwise you can't handle mulitple productions with one or even not with more than one machine. VST folders can be moved. This is not a big deal, normallywise. It is all about the host, or the plugin developer. In this case about the host and the plugin developer in one and the same creator. ;-)

Not sure but I think we need help  of a dev here. Or does anyone know a small app similar to fseventer on mac, what can log me the communications of a certain request? So I could follow what Sonar or Session Drummer tries to collect to get started.

The thing is, when I delete the 2 lines small registry entry of Session Drummer 3 in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory chain, it comes back after a rescan in Sonar Options or Vst Manager. But it recreates a wrong bulk of entries. It includes only 2 lines with "isVst" and" touch" as key. This is definitely wrong, because all other plugins recreate their entries correctly, with over 20 lines of keys and values.

Sorry, but, I follow my own advice and don't run into problems like these.

It's easier to add a new plug-in path than screwing around with the windows registry.....

It doesn't really matter how long you've been running DAWs (I have 10+ years myself). That's just smart computing IMHO. BTW, I use multiple machines and swap projects between multiple hosts too.