Vocaloid in Sonar

Can someone advise if they can get Yamaha's Vocaloid working in 8.5.3 or X1? Officially, the website states that they don't support Vocaloid with Sonar!

Thanks Sepheritoh....
 
Yes I see the other big post on this and users do say that it does work so why do Yamaha say that it is not supported on Sonar? I think I will risk it and get the download and give it a go!

Thanks Cliff
 
So you run this in standalone mode then? Not as a VST plugin?
 

OK here's what I found.

Under Win7/64 I have to run the standalone Vocaloid in XP Compatibility mode. Otherwise it crashes ... a lot !.

If I remember rightly, I had also successfully run the vocaloid rewired inside Sonar 8.5.3.
It looks like others on the forum have done a bit more with it.

I hadn't even tried rewire under Sonar 64 because I thought you couldn't do it ... BUT
I stumbled upon another thread somewhere else on this forum that pointed to this:

http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0115

Thank you to whoever it was that posted that info here.

It says you can rewire one device in a 64bit host using this, I haven't tried it yet although I do intend to.

I won't get time to try anything new for a while, just too much happening.

Fortunately for me I'm in Wellington, but in Christchurch today at luch time there was a big earthquake.
It was a biggie, it's a real disaster that's flattened much of the city, people dead and trapped.
Have to go now, good luck.

Cheers - Cliff

Hi Cliff
 
Saw the earthquake on the news. Just truly awful!! Hope if you have any friends/family there that they're all OK! The next post on this suggested that Vocaloid works fine in rewire for 32 bit 8.5.3.
 
I did laos see that Vocaloid 1 isn't compatible with win7 but Vocaloid 2 is fine.
 
 
Quietman

Nope. Rewire does not work with bitbridge. I've heard rumours that the rewire owners are looking at 64 bit, but no real facts.

I now use vocaloid (VST. VSTi and Rewire) in 32 bit only. As mentioned the VST & VSTi sometimes crash in 64 bit. I am no technical expert, but I think it has something to do with NRPN parameters that does not go through bitbridge the way vocaloid likes it. Just stick to 32 bit for vocaloid, whichever way you want to use it and it will work fine. When I am done with writing the vocals, I export to wav files and then continue to work in 64 bit.

Hi Sepheritoh
 
I asked the same question to Cliff....
 
How did you connect Vocaloid in Rewire? I bought it last week Vocaloid2 Prima. When I click on Rewire, Vocaloid is listed but when I click on it it comes up in my track but the application will not launch. I went to Vocaloid settings in stand alone mode > preference >Audio Settings > Output > ReWire Master
 
Thanks
 
QM

PS. Important.

Remember to set the BPM tempo in Vocaloid exactly the same as in Sonar. Vocaloid does not receive BPM tempo from Sonar. If they are not in sync, you may find that your vocaloid sounds distorted.

Happy vocaloiding!

Vocaloid does not transfer any midi data to Sonar. Just audio.

Basically the steps are:
1. Open Sonar (I'm just stating the obvious here)
2. Go to the menu -> insert -> rewire devises -> vocaloid 2 (You got this already)
3. When the dialogue comes up be sure to tick "First Synth Audio Output". You do not need to tick the MIDI source unless you want to use the VST (which is a totally different thing). Check this part as this could have gone wrong.
3 (alt). If you did not check the right block above, you can still recover by inserting an audio track. The select the input drop-down and then select Vocaloid 2 Mtr-L/VocaloidMtr-R:Stereo
4. Step 3 above will not open the ap as stated in the post above. Now open Vocaloid 2 from windows. I got it pinned to my taskbar for easy access, but else you can click on the desktop. 
5. In Vocaloid: Check under settings -> prefferences -> Audio settings that Rewire - Master is selected.
6. Reverse all the way to the first bar in Vocaloid and set the Tempo top left corner to whatever you have it in Sonar. It defaults to 120.
7. Enter a few notes with the pencil tool. Adding lyrics is optional for this tutorial.
8. Now, click the rewire button on the Vocaloid toolbar. It looks like a "RwX" and it is the last button before the M:B:C nowtime indicator. This synthesize the vocals and prepares Vocaloid. You have to click this thingy every time you make a change.
9. Return to Sonar: Press play and you should hear the vocals comming through.
10. Optional: In the track view select  the FX tab and insert some reverb. I like the Ambience default setting or IKM CSR Classic studio verb at the large hall preset. This makes it sound like a choir. VSX Vocalstip is also usefull.
11. Write your opera.
12. When you are ready for the mixdown: In Vocaloid go to the menu and select File -> Export -> Wave and export the wave. Make it easy for yourself and export it to the audio folder of your Sonar project. Go back to Sonar and import the wave. Delete the Vocaloid from the synth rack and process like you process any vocal. Check same effects as step 10.

Hope this helps