Smart Tool + Slip Editing Bug!

Update: Confirmed w Tech Support that this is indeed an "issue/bug". Although it took me a while to get them to recognize that it isn't working the way it should. Problem report has been logged.  Workaround is to hold down F8 while using the Smart Tool and it allows you to do the slip edit.  Note that this only happens at the beginning of clips, where there's also a Fade In and you're zoomed out a bit.  It's a pain when you're trying to slip edit clips across multiple tracks at once and want to visually see the edits taking place.
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Org Post:
 
I was trying to slip edit an audio clip with the smart tool, but all I could do was adjust Clip Fade time. When I would hold the pointer at the dege of the clip (hot spot) all I would get was the damn adjust fade tool.  

Thanks Wicked, but I did.  I went all the way up and down the edge of the clip and all I would get was the Clip Fade option.  It was driving me insane!!!! Then, all of a sudden, it was there.  I hit alt, then ****, a few times to see what would happen.  When I would hit Alt, I would get the Split tool.  I think I'm missing something here.

Can anyone else replicate this with a file? Thanks!

Can anyone else replicate this with a file?

Yes, this happens to me a lot. It is very frustrating.

Thanks Peter, but I'm aware of what you're saying and this isn't what's happening.  What's happening is that the Hot Spot at the beginning of the clip ( the area that turns blue when you put the cursor on it and allows you to chose the type of edit you want to do ---Hot Spot C as described on page 404 of the manual)  is not available if there's a fade in  unless you really zoom in into the clip, which makes it tedious to edit.   The only option is the adjust fade option which turns the area red.  I've never seen this behavior before when slip editing in previous versions of Sonar and it only happens with the "Smart" tool.  I couldn't post a screenshot so I just pasted what the manual says below:

Using the Smart tool on audio clips

Hotspot Default action +ALT +CTRL +ALT+SHIFT

A Adjust fade in

B Adjust fade out

C Crop clip start Crop clip start and

move fade in

Stretch clip Crop clip start and also

move clip data

D Crop clip end Crop clip end and move

fade out

Stretch clip Crop clip end and also

move clip data

E Lasso select entire clips Select by time

Table 67. Using the Smart tool on audio clips

Hmmm... perhaps now I see something. If the fade is very narrow, then the fade cursor can be activated all the way down the edge of the clip. I have to move the mouse just a bit closer to the edge of the clip to see the slip edit cursor. So I can see how this might become a problem.

Does this problem still happen if the red vertical line indicating the start of the fade is well away from the edge of the clip?

This might be an issue with not having enough horizontal pixels to discriminate between the fade and slip edit lines. I notice you have a 17" screen, so maybe not too many horizontal pixels. I have a widescreen with 1920 pixels.

Cheers, Peter.

Confirmed w Tech Support that this is indeed an "issue/bug". Although it took me a while to get them to recognize that it isn't working the way it should. Problem report has been logged.  Workaround is to hold down F8 while using the Smart Tool and it allows you to do the slip edit.  Note that this only happens at the beginning of clips, where there's also a Fade In and you're zoomed out a bit.  It's a pain when you're trying to slip edit clips across multiple tracks at once and want to visually see the edits taking place.

Agree with all the above. I like to do a lot of vocal editing. It is so bas in X1 that I no longer edit in it and use 8.5.3 instead.
It always worked intuitively before.
Fuming!