How to upgrade Homestudio 6 to 8.5?

Hi again everyone. I just have a simple question for you. I have Melodyne Editor but was told I need to upgrade to Sonar 8.5 or X1 (I think that's what they said). Do I need to buy 7 and then 8.5 or can I use this X1 thing? Can I go straight to 8.5 from Sonar 6? What do you suggest? Sonar 6 does not recognize Melodyne VSTs. They told me something about x1, but I don't know if it will take care of this situation for me or not. I would greatly appreciate the help here if you have the time. Oh yeah, they also said something about a 64 bit config. I only use Sonar 6 for guitars and vocals so I never upgraded. I am using XP but don't know much about this 32 or 64 bit configuration stuff. Please advise.

thanks heaps,

Bob

Hello Beagle and thanks for the quick reply. Here is the whole entry that I posted in the Celemony forum:


Hello forum, I hope someone here can help me out. I have very recently loaded Melodyne editor on my PC. I had no problems with activation or loading Singletrack. However, what I am trying to do is use Melodyne as a plug-in for Sonar 6 Home Studio. As I understand it, I can use Editor in this manner. I do not need to use editor the other way around, that is, as a stand alone function. i just want to pull up Melodyne within Sonar, as a plug-in, make corrections, and then move on. Assuming that this is indeed possible, I shall move along.

I have read the faq on the Melodyne site that tells me how to load the plug-in into Sonar. However, after many, many VST scans, Sonar never finds any plug-ins. It is as if they are not there. Which brings me to this thought:

Am I following the correct procedure from the very beginning?
I loaded the disk.
I downloaded the latest installer from the site.
I followed the faq pertaining to Sonar and Melodyne VSTs.

Where did I go wrong?
I acknowledge the high probability that I have not done something correctly as I am a reluctant software user ( I am really a guitar player with some ideas ) However, I have used Reason and Sonar for several years now, so maybe with your help, I can figure out how to accomplish this also. What do you think?

Would it be possible for a user or software rep to provide a very short but accurate guide or primer for me.

I am using the aforementioned programs, trying to use Melodyne, and on an XP machine. I would be happy to provide any other details that you need.

Many thanks in advance

Bobb


The Reply:

thanks for your post. I am afraid to say that Melodyne editor has only been tested with Sonar 8 up. We recommend using Sonar X1 or Sonar 8.5 in a 64 bit configuration.

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There is the whole thing Beagle. I guess that Ulf is a Team Member-whatever that may mean.

To re-phrase this situation as you sort of asked, I am using Reason 3, HS6 ( thanks for telling me that here was a difference between Sonar and HS6 ) and trying to pull in Melodyne Editor as a plug-in for vocals primarily. I don't want to use Melodyne any way other than to pull it up as a plug-in-within HS6-like any other plug-in. I agree with you, it seems like I should be able to accomplish this. I think that there is a fairly good chance that I am not doing something correctly or in the correct order. I am betting that you would know how I should do this since you seem to know about anything and everything pertaining to Sonar, Cakewalk, or whatever is the correct way of lumping the program under one designation.
 I will be happy to go further if you need it but this is the crux of the problem. I really appreciate your help with this. Let me know what else you need to assist.

Many thanks

Bob

I agree with what Karl said, they're not saying it won't work in SHS6, they're just saying they don't support it, therefore they're not going to help you with your problem.  there's no reason I can think of that it wouldn't work in SHS6 but work in S8.5.

I do not have melodyne editor or SHS6, so I cannot confirm or deny that it works.  I have several versions of Sonar and SHS4 and I have melodyne UNO (version prior to Editor).  So I cannot guarentee that I can help you get it to work, but I will try and I can't think of a reason that it wouldn't work.

Let's look directly at your steps for installing and configuring melodyne and maybe we can figure out what's wrong. 

first, look you need to find where melodyne installed the .dll file.  the .dll file is what SHS needs to scan before it will see it as a VST.  Yours is probably located in the same general area that mine is.  mine's at c:\program files\celemony\melodyne

open that folder (or it may have melodyne\editor or something similar) with windows explorer and see if there are any *.dll files there.  if so, go to SHS6 and go to OPTONS>GLOBAL>VST FOLDERS.  I think that's where it is - but I can't remember for certain.  I can try to open Sonar 6 and verify that if you need more info.

then make sure and add that folder to the scan list by clicking on the ADD FOLDER and browse to that folder where the dll files are.

then press the SCAN button.

after it finishes scanning, see if EDITOR is now available for you to insert into the FX bin of an AUDIO track by righ clicking and choose AUDIO FX>MELODYNE>EDITOR - or similar - yours may say something slightly different, but it should be (hopefully) somewhere in that menu system.

if it's not, don't give up yet, I have some more tricks up my sleeve to try.

Thanks for all the suggestions from you all. I am going to go and try what Beagle says for now and see what happens. I will be back today or tomorrow to tell you all what happened. Again, many thanks from everyone who responded!

Bob

Hi bob - SHS doesn't support VST3 anyway, only VST2 so don't worry about the VST3 dlls.  steinberg products (cubase, etc) are the only ones using VST3 to my knowledge.

as far as the initialization error for the interlok - that sounds like a pace copy protection problem.  I have only had 1 program using pace before and now I dont' even remember what it was - I don't think I'm using it any more.

this might be something you'll have to ask on the melodyne support website.  I'm not sure if they have a user forum there or not, but I"m sure they have tech support available that could help with this.  this particular error is all melodyne - not sonar related at all and they should clear that up for you.

sorry I can't be more help on that one.

YW Bob!  no need to credit me - just your thanks is enough!  (and you'd be surprised how many people don't even do that! )