UnderTow
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 07:57:14
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dr.hashmk4 Look I deal in facts. The market doesn't seem to be giving you very good deals then judging by what you present to the forum... You are a very good example og the old saying "A little knowledge..." For instance brands such Roland, Motu, RME, Pro Tools and MAudio all use the same brand of converters. I thought you dealt in facts... Some of these brands use the same chips for their converters. That is not the same thing as saying these brands all use the same converters. If you really dealt in facts you would know this. 24 bit is not 24 bit in-fact some interfaces such as Lexicon's u42s only use 103 db of a possible 144db (144 db being the full dynamic range of supposed 24 bit recordings. 24 is 24 bits. That doesn't mean that all the bits are filled with relevant data. You need to seriously increase the detail and finesse of your facts. Now you are just repeating half truths you have read somewhere without demonstrating any real understanding of what you parrot. The democratization of music making has been fulled by the homogenization of consumer electronics as I already have stated what is in your interface is more than likely the same as in your friends although you might have a pro tools rig and he might have a motu. This has ultimately led to the downfall of the music distribution industry and "professional" recording studios. Look at EMI and Abbey Road. How does the converters used have any effect on the music industry? No, please don't bother answering. What we have in our home recording setups today is infinitesimally better than what all of the greatest recording have been made on. Of course DAW envy gets in the way of music making rather than sticking with the DAW you have for at least 3 years this way you get to learn it inside out. We are duped into upgrading every few months. Don't get me started on buggy software and interfaces. I thing your next username should be Scatterbrain. Also computer power has finally out stripped the needs of the DAW. I can easily max out any DAW. Trust me on that. Finally because there is no money in the songwriting/music making side of the business even the most talented of us have to find a niche and make money. Going to uni facilitates this and eventually leads to a high paying job and ultimately the freedom to do your own work. Don't kid yourself. Your uni degree (if you achieve it) won't get you any job in the music industry. And the lack of a degree won't stop anyone either. I think these are all interesting points don't you? The meandering thoughts of a less than stable individual? Not really, no. So yea I am going to keep getting qualifications. I award you the Dunning Kruger effect qualification already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOHJa5Vj5Y UnderTow
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 08:07:25
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dr.hash, May I suggest that you go make some music and show us that with the right tools your production is far superior to our current DAW environment. I would then think you would have proof for the "being duped" comment you made. Simply coming here and trying to say we should believe it without you showing proof (not of what others have done, but what YOU have done) will go a long way to getting creditability here. Tom
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Mick Moreau
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 09:00:20
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Ahhh another Walters9515 type to enhance us all with his vast knowledge base .... NOT
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drumr
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 09:06:45
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 09:30:41
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drumr "Big Crosby"??? LOLOL As opposed to L'il Crosby?
Any argument carried to extreme will eventually turn to semantics...Curson's Law
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yorolpal
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 09:36:33
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Or Crosby, Stills and Hash?
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 09:39:16
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UnderTow dr.hashmk4 Look I deal in facts. The market doesn't seem to be giving you very good deals then judging by what you present to the forum... You are a very good example og the old saying "A little knowledge..." For instance brands such Roland, Motu, RME, Pro Tools and MAudio all use the same brand of converters. I thought you dealt in facts... Some of these brands use the same chips for their converters. That is not the same thing as saying these brands all use the same converters. If you really dealt in facts you would know this. 24 bit is not 24 bit in-fact some interfaces such as Lexicon's u42s only use 103 db of a possible 144db (144 db being the full dynamic range of supposed 24 bit recordings. 24 is 24 bits. That doesn't mean that all the bits are filled with relevant data. You need to seriously increase the detail and finesse of your facts. Now you are just repeating half truths you have read somewhere without demonstrating any real understanding of what you parrot. The democratization of music making has been fulled by the homogenization of consumer electronics as I already have stated what is in your interface is more than likely the same as in your friends although you might have a pro tools rig and he might have a motu. This has ultimately led to the downfall of the music distribution industry and "professional" recording studios. Look at EMI and Abbey Road. How does the converters used have any effect on the music industry? No, please don't bother answering. What we have in our home recording setups today is infinitesimally better than what all of the greatest recording have been made on. Of course DAW envy gets in the way of music making rather than sticking with the DAW you have for at least 3 years this way you get to learn it inside out. We are duped into upgrading every few months. Don't get me started on buggy software and interfaces. I thing your next username should be Scatterbrain. Also computer power has finally out stripped the needs of the DAW. I can easily max out any DAW. Trust me on that. Finally because there is no money in the songwriting/music making side of the business even the most talented of us have to find a niche and make money. Going to uni facilitates this and eventually leads to a high paying job and ultimately the freedom to do your own work. Don't kid yourself. Your uni degree (if you achieve it) won't get you any job in the music industry. And the lack of a degree won't stop anyone either. I think these are all interesting points don't you? The meandering thoughts of a less than stable individual? Not really, no. So yea I am going to keep getting qualifications. I award you the Dunning Kruger effect qualification already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOHJa5Vj5Y UnderTow And I thought you were just rude, I stand corrected. Wikipedia rules the world. The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. This leads to the situation in which less competent people rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence. Competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others." The effect is not specifically limited to the observation that ignorance of a topic is conducive to overconfident assertions about it, and Dunning and Kruger cite a study saying that 94% of college professors rank their work as "above average" (relative to their peers), to underscore that the highly intelligent and informed are hardly exempt. Rather, the effect is about paradoxical defects in perception of skill, in oneself and others, regardless of the particular skill and its intellectual demands, whether it is chess, playing golf or driving a car.
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codamedia
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 09:58:17
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EDIT: Never mind - thread locked by Zyler.
post edited by codamedia - 2011/03/09 10:05:20
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Re:The Corporate Republic/The New Serfdom/I Will Not Go Away
2011/03/09 10:00:57
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Hi Benjamin, I'm not familiar with your previous bans (maybe for the better?) and I'll just let bygones be - but this thread is wholly and unapologetically off-topic. As such, I'm going to lock the thread. You're welcome to start new threads, but please: - Post in the appropriate forum (X1 is for X1, Coffee House is for anything)
- Keep the subject line specific and relevant
Thanks!
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