keneds
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v vocal plug in
I have X1 Essentials..... Is there a way to get v vocal without upgrading?
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/10 08:35:09
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Buy Melodyne. I have it so I'm partial to it, BUT there was a discussion about 1.5 years ago as to what vocal tuner was best..... VVocal, autotune or Melodyne. The winner was melodyne for a number of reasons. I like it because it is very transparent. It leaves very little noticeable artifact behind when it is used properly.
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/10 10:02:27
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keneds I have X1 Essentials..... Is there a way to get v vocal without upgrading? nope. but as guitarhacker says - in your case if you need pitch correction I'd go with melodyne. in fact I have X1 produer and I have melodyne for pitch correction (an older version, I have not upgraded because I didn't feel it necessary).
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keneds
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/10 12:15:18
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Well, This question just costed me a hundred bucks. Melodyne Essentials should be all I need. Thanks, fella's
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/10 12:25:12
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But can you put a price on happiness good vocals?
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/10 13:53:06
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Nothings free, That's for sure. Maybe now my vocals will sound like a hundred bucks! Lol
post edited by keneds - 2011/03/10 13:55:22
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/10 17:55:10
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You can't go wrong with Melodyne. It's very transparent compared to V-Vocal and even Antares Autotune. Aside from drastic corrections, I can't tell when Melodyne is being used. If I engage V-Vocal now I can hear it every time - without actually tuning anything.
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 05:24:00
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Hi Beagle I was the same as you with not upgrading my Melodyne, until about a month or so ago - they had an offer (I think) and it was reasonably cheap $90 or so. Anyway even then I wasn't going to bother, but after I had tried it I defineitly thought it better and of course the DNA is pretty amazing, so I did upgrade. I did a couple of trials with audio to midi conversion, which I never had been particularly succesful with before, and they worked really well. I also thought detetcion and correction was possibly better. Whether or not its just me thinking its better because I upgraded I am not sure, but I think the upgrade was worth it. Thought you might be interested. Cheers Nigel
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 07:54:59
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One thing I started doing with Melodyne. After you get the vocal (or instrument) part into melodyne. I use the auto correct and run both of the sliders about 60% of the way... I used to go 100% on both..... but now I use a lesser number. Then edit it manually. SAVE FREQUENTLY. of all my plugs, melodyne is the least stable especially when I have a 4 minute vocal track in it. That is NOT to say that it crashes a lot, but it has glitched on me and if I haven't saved my work..... it's back to square one. I use it and love it. If you want to see exactly how transparent it is, go to my website>my music and look for Coming Home. The first female vox ( from :30 to :47) was originally singing a unison with the male vox.... I used MD to move the female vox to a harmony part. See if you can hear any artifacts in the female vox on that entire part.
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Beagle
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 08:47:16
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Bajan Blue Hi Beagle I was the same as you with not upgrading my Melodyne, until about a month or so ago - they had an offer (I think) and it was reasonably cheap $90 or so. Anyway even then I wasn't going to bother, but after I had tried it I defineitly thought it better and of course the DNA is pretty amazing, so I did upgrade. I did a couple of trials with audio to midi conversion, which I never had been particularly succesful with before, and they worked really well. I also thought detetcion and correction was possibly better. Whether or not its just me thinking its better because I upgraded I am not sure, but I think the upgrade was worth it. Thought you might be interested. Cheers Nigel Thanks for the report, Nigel, I had considered it, but decided I wanted to spend my money on something else. maybe I'll look at it again when I have some upgrade money.
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 13:05:53
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I'm in the same boat as Beagle: I've had Melodyne for years and still using the Cre8 edition that hasn't been updated since 2008. It has some annoying quirks, but basically does what I need it to do and dammit, I paid like 350 bucks for it and I'm determined to get my money's worth. DNA is jaw-dropping technology for sure, but the quality of basic time/amplitude/pitch editing hasn't changed. Just my 0.02 for others in the same situation. I wonder if Melodyne's license can be transferred. If so, it might be worth a post on KVR's marketplace forum to see about getting an older version from someone who has upgraded. Could be a cheap solution to the OP's problem.
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Beagle
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 13:20:27
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lol bit! yeah, aren't all these upgrades all the time just wonderful for the value of what we pay for??? ;-)
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 14:19:45
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I had melodyne for some time when they sent me an email telling me to upgrade to editor. A download later I was upgraded and it cost nothing..... maybe I was within the free upgrade window..... IDK...
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Beagle
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/11 14:43:35
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yes, they offered free upgrades for a period of time when Editor was released if you had bought within a certain period of time prior to that. I did not - my purchase was a lot earlier.
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Re:v vocal plug in
2011/03/13 12:47:46
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Guitarhacker I use it and love it. If you want to see exactly how transparent it is, go to my website>my music and look for Coming Home. The first female vox ( from :30 to :47) was originally singing a unison with the male vox.... I used MD to move the female vox to a harmony part. See if you can hear any artifacts in the female vox on that entire part. i would never had known if you didn't mention it. i thought the song was good too. the picture for the song is very apropos.
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