57Gregy
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Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
Sometimes folks will ask about problems with their DAWs, particularly with Dropout, and one of the questions we'll ask is "what is your CPU meter reading" when it drops out. I've mentioned what a typical CPU reading is for a project (for my system), as others have, but realized I was actually giving my Disk reading. My CPU meter seldom rises above 3%, but Disk can hit 40+% at times. I've often wrote that when using ASIO driver mode that the user should have his or her Processor Scheduling set to Background Services instead of Programs, but could never remember where I read that. Found the source just a little while ago, from the Focusrite Support site. The page I have is from 2007, and specific to Windows XP under Tuning Tips, "this will improve the performance of ASIO drivers on the PC". Just wondering if that's why my CPU readings are low and the disk readings are higher. Has anyone else changed their Processor Scheduling for that reason?
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/10 15:05:07
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guessing here, but I'm thinking the disk reading is higher because it has to locate the file on the disk.... maybe the disk needs a defragging. With all the write and delete that goes on in a DAW, I'm thinking as the disk is used it needs defragging to keep all the stuff together and organized so it's easier to get to.
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57Gregy
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/10 15:19:22
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Right, but is there an advantage, other than just doing what Focusrite Support said? Apparently, ASIO works in the background, thus the recommendation to change the Processor Scheduling. I haven't had a dropout in maybe years, except once when I forgot to turn off the virus scan and get off the internet and the VS updated right in the middle of recording.
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 03:30:40
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A floppy disk controller (FDC) a special purpose chip and associated circuitry that directs and reading and writing to a computer floppy disk drive control processor where all work is done. All programs are fed into the processor instruction and direction and runs all the time which makes happen.CPU time the CPU was busy executing the task.
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Beagle
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 08:32:40
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 11:02:14
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I read that to Greg, and have always setup my DAW to run that way. Defrag can also be an intereting subject, as when you defrag you move data around to make room for things, by shifting all the empty space to one area of the hard drive. Cleaning it up as it claims. I have heard two sides to that arguement, one that it helps, and one that it hurts, in that it makes the file search for the moved data.
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57Gregy
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 11:11:24
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I wondered if anyone else using ASIO had done that. As far as defragging, I've read posts by some folks who say they do it often, but I usually run the analysis and it's always said the disk doesn't need to be defragged. I still have miles of open space.
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 12:08:23
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57Gregy
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 20:35:11
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I assume you mean the last few posts? Interesting. I guess I'll search Noel's posts; there can't be too many...
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 20:56:39
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yes, the ones about whether or not to make background services priority.
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:14:48
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im a little lost here but im very interested in what your saying greg as i just spent about a 1/2 hour on the focusrite site myself..i have the safire 6 usb.what did you do to help performance..and if i may ask..when ever i open a project my performance module always has about 21% taken in the cpu area to start a project...before i even start a track?...is this normal?? i figured it would start at 0...no??is this because its doing something else?
post edited by chuckebaby - 2011/03/15 21:16:17
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57Gregy
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:26:15
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A new project should be at zero, at least that's my experience. Even an old project when not playing should be zero. Open your Task Manager; how many processes are running? The info I got from the Focusrite Answerbase was on optimizing your PC for audio on Windows XP. My DAW is an XP computer. It recommends setting the Processor Scheduling to 'background services' since ASIO runs in the background. For XP. I haven't visited there in awhile, though. www.focusrite.com/answerbase/
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chuckebaby
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:37:25
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okay..i just watched the video for it..what will switching to backround services do?to my normal settings,e.g. surfing the net..using wordat times?any idea?..cause im all for it and am ready to do it now...my proccesor is running both in task..its an i2 intel..now i know at least i have a small issue cause yes confirmed when i open a project my performance module is reading 22% percent right now..thats a new project,just opened nothing done to it...thanks greg,,much thanks..heres the vid i just watched http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/article.php?id=1088
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:42:47
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sorry greg..i probably should have mentioned...my performance module on the control bar in the daw control bar...my bad man
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57Gregy
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:47:02
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This is the thread, Beagle. It wasn't too hard to find: only 450+ threads to look through. http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1238330&mpage=1&key=processor%2cscheduling You might want to read it too, Charlie. If you're using ASIO drivers. I didn't understand a lot of what Noel wrote, but it made sense, sorta. Looks like I'll have to do the trial and error thing, see if one works better than the other. Note: I'm having no problems with my DAW, just seeking knowledge. Charlie, are you using Instrument Tracks?
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:50:17
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yes once in a while..im not going to highjack this thread on you greg..im sorry.i started a new thread apologys to you sir.im very interested in this article
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57Gregy
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 21:57:40
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No problem, Charlie. There's lots of info on these forums (some of it contradictory) about tweaking the computer for best performance for audio. The simpler ones are turning off all other programs, disabling/turning off the modem and getting off the internet, turning off the virus scanners. If the MC/SONAR CPU meters are reading 20+% with nothing in the tracks and nothing playing, that's not good, because if you start to record in that state, you're bound to get some glitches from your memory being stolen by some unknown agent.
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Re:Differences between CPU and Disk readings?
2011/03/15 22:15:42
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yep, I didn't have time to search for it, but obviously you did! Noel is typically right, especially considering he's the "head programmer" of sonar.
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