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2011/03/10 21:27:54 (permalink)

Total N00b

 I have an Alesis QS8.1 keyboard that I want to get set up with CakeWalk.  I will be using some version Sonar, not sure exactly which yet.  I am buying a new PC to start with and I understand I will need an audio board and a MIDI board.  This is the PC I am looking at:
 
HP Pavilion HPE-580t Desktop
Core i7-950 3.06GHz
1GB AMD HD 6450 Graphics

1MB L2 + 8MB Shared L3 Cache 
12GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM memory 6 DIMMS
2TB (7,200RPM) SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
Blu-Ray ROM and LightScribe SuperMulti drive 
Integrated 7.1 channel capable sound w/ front audio ports
Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
 
Will this machine be a good choice?
 
Will the sound card be good or do I need something better?
 
What MIDI cards are good?
 
What else will I need???
 
I plan to run out to my home stereo system... I assume that is not a big deal?
 
Like I said I am a total n00b at this kind of stuff.  I am not a serious musician; more of a hobbyist at this point but I am excited to learn and hopefully put together some good stuff.
 
Any advice is very much appreciated and I hope to get to the point where I too will be a valuable member of this community.
 
Thanks!
 
~Dante
 
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    fsr76
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/11 00:26:01 (permalink)
    Do you know anyone who uses this computer model and has it working for them with Sonar?  The answer to that will determine if it's a good choice.  Alternatively, you might want to consider a computer made by a company that focuses on assembling computers for music.  The following link is a good place to start:

    http://www.cakewalk.com/PCResource/

    As for sound card, you want to purchase something with an ASIO driver, preferably not a Sound Blaster card.  Look at M-Audio and Presonus to start.  The sound card can be connected via USB, Firewire, PCI or PCIe. 

    A lot of sound cards have built in MIDI I/O, so you can kill two birds with one stone by choosing the right sound card.

    You can start by using your home stereo system to listen to what you've recorded, but at some point, depending on your stereo system, you'll probably want to invest in some good sounding speakers so that your mixes that you hear on your studio speakers sounds similar to what you hear in your car stereo.

    Hope this helps.

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    tyacko
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/11 08:11:53 (permalink)
    A good decision on a PC is important, but for recording music the audio interface you choose is key.  Please do some research here on this forum site as well as the web and see what works best with the DAW software you choose.  Think about how many inputs you will need now and if you turn this into something more than a hobby.  PCIe cards will give you the lowest latency when recording, but there are also some great USB/Firewire solutions out there, but there are also many people who have experienced pops/clicks, sometimes because of the chipsets on the motherboard causing issues or IRQ/DMA channel conflicts or who knows what.

    As fsr76 said, your home stereo system will be the weakest link pretty quickly as you will start to see that you'll be saying "Why don't my mixes sound the same when I take them to other systems?".  Studio monitors, proper placement of your workspace, and acoustically treating your recording area will help.

    In the end it is a tough call, because if you are simply doing this for fun and making music for yourself, then get a cost effective audio interface and the PC you've talked about and make some music.  It's when the hobby becomes an obsession is when the real work begins.

    Best of luck,
    Tom

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    Dante_MN
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/14 07:42:11 (permalink)
    Thanks guys!

    Unfortunately because I do know so little, I don't have a good feel for what I will need... other than I know I want to hook up my Alesis QS8.1 and at some point I would need to add some vocals but at this point I have no plans to have any other instruments involved... my _assumption_ here is that I will be able to get most everything I need either from the QS8.1 or from Sonar.

    While I can see the importance of a proper workspace set up and such, my other assumption is that since almost all of the inputs are direct connections (cables for the synth, software for the rest) that I could get by with my stereo for playing things back, or am I completely off-base here as well?

    Granted my home stereo is nothing special either... just a Yamaha reciever thats a couple years old.

    I may wait a while to try to get a better understanding before I pull the trigger, but frankly most of the posts that I read here it seems like everyone assumes that everyone is pretty well-versed in all of the technology, making it difficult for a complete n00b like me to understand (at least without doing more research on the terms and brands being mentioned).

    Thanks again, I appreciate you both taking the time to address my questions!

    ~Dante
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    Dante_MN
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/14 08:19:27 (permalink)
    I thought of another question... what do the studio monitors hook up to?  I assume there is more to it than just adding the monitors themselves?

    TIA,
    ~Dante
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/14 09:01:44 (permalink)
    1 gig of ram??..are you sure??

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    Dante_MN
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/14 10:02:26 (permalink)
    The 1Gb is on the video card; the PC has 12 Gb...
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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/14 13:05:25 (permalink)
    Hi Dante, Welcome!!
    You should shoot an email to Jim Roseberry (an expert in building DAWs) and get his advice. He's built systems for quite a few people here and comes highly recommended.  jim@studiocat.com
    He's a nice guy too.

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    Re:Total N00b 2011/03/15 07:52:58 (permalink)
    Dante_MN said...

    what do the studio monitors hook up to?


    The audio interface you buy will have outs on it that you can use to drive active monitors.  Most of the audio interfaces will have a section in their manual about how to hook it up.

    Tom

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