Sonar X1 MIDI Problems Help Please!

Hi,

I've just upgraded to Sonar X1 Producer from Sonar 8.5.2 Producer.  When I open a project created in Sonar 8.5.2 I notice that the MIDI synths (VST) are running slow..Some of the midi tracks are fine but about two of them namely (Realguitar and Absynth) are having latency problems on playback.  I know this is probably a problem related to MIDI setup but I don't know what it is that I need to change to rectify this problem.  The MIDI interface (keboard) also seems to be having latency problems.  Either that or somehow Sonar X1 has repositionined the midi tracks?  Although they appear to be in the right place...I'd be grateful for any advice...sorry I don't know how many ms the latency is..

My Setup:

Windows 7 64bit
RME Fireface 400 Interface
Sonar X1 Producer Edition 64bit.
Intel Core Quad Core Processor 2.4GHZ
8.00 GB RAM


Thanks in advance

Amar

Hi, Thanks

I've just checked the audio settings and the interface is selected correctly.  I have no ASIO panel as the interface used WDM.  What should the buffer and latency settings be in Sonar and the audio driver panel?

Thanks

Amar

The thing is I have always used WDM as the drivers have never worked under ASIO,  I used to try to it under ASIO mode but I get no sound.  I have run the profiler and moved the slider as far left as possible in order to get clean audio.  5ms doesnt work but 40ms does give an output.

I have just checked the box labelled 64-bit precision engine and I think the latency has gone...could this have been it? I have no idea what this does btw!

Amar

RME FIREFACE 400 
Driver versin 3.034
Hardware version 1.70

Hi just switched to ASIO now and I seem to have fixed the latency problem but now on playback I occasionally get  cackling noise,  what should my asio panel settings be set too?

thanks

Amar

by the way my buffer is set to 1024, this is the only way i get minimal crackles, but they still exist!

thanks

Amar

excuse my lack of knowledge! but how do I check what the latency is reporting?  do you mean what it is set to? or is there a way of checking what the latency is?

thanks

 

Latency reported

Input: 24.2msec, 1069 samples
Output: 25.4 msec, 1120 samples
Total Roundtrip: 49.6 msec, 2189 samples

amarjeetbolla


Latency reported

Input: 24.2msec, 1069 samples
Output: 25.4 msec, 1120 samples
Total Roundtrip: 49.6 msec, 2189 samples

That's pretty high for recording/playing. 
Lower your buffer size (mine is at 128 on a much slower rig with less ram) and see what happens. Sometimes it takes some tinkering to get it right - some use different latency settings while mixing just to make the audio device less stressed!
 
Brian

Are you sure you are using the latest drivers for your Fireface? You are in 64 bit, right?
It may sound cliche, but you should not be having these problems (even with X1.) Have you been using this device for a while?
 
Brian

the playback timing master is listed as fireface adat in the driver settings whereas the record timing master is listed as ASIO fireface analog, could it be that? 

amar

no the option does not exist! only adat is showing on playback timing master....one for the hotfix?  but the hotfix doesn't list RME as a problem card so i didn't want to risk it..what do you think? :

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013217


Amar

My problem is solved!
It turned out that my file has been in somehow damage
NON_73


More midi problems!
I have upgraded to Sonar X1 and has received an unexpected problem.
I can play midi channels with different VST plugs and can play VST plugs with my midi keyboard, so far, so good.

My problem is I can not record midi!?
I get the indication that the Sonar receive midi signal but nothing sticks ...
Anyone have any suggestions on what it could be?
Core: Intel dual 4 Quad
RAM: 4 GB
System: Win-7 x64
Sound Card: E-mu Tracker Pre
Keyboard: E-mu Xboard 61