Audio interface question

Author
kjs00333
Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 292
  • Joined: 2008/02/22 15:50:49
  • Status: offline
2011/03/15 16:55:54 (permalink)

Audio interface question

Hey all,
I am using a fast track pro USB and having issues getting Sonar 8 to use its full potential.  According to the specs of the hardware, It can go up to 96khz/ 24bit depth. However,  Sonar will not let it go above 48khz / 24 bit. It gives me an error about it resetting the audio to what's compatible with the hardware, so it resets it to 44.1khz.  I do not know the exact error since I am not in front of my DAW..but it's along those lines. I am using the latest ASIO drivers for the product. Also, when doing the wave profiler, it will not go above 48khz either.. I don't understand what's going on here especially if the product will do higher khz.

Here is the product info. 
http://www.m-audio.com/pr...n_us/FastTrackPro.html

I called M-audio, and of course..no answer.  I'm not sure if this is an interface issue, or an issue within Sonar.  Any ideas?



#1

9 Replies Related Threads

    CJaysMusic
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 30423
    • Joined: 2006/10/28 01:51:41
    • Location: Miami - Fort Lauderdale - Davie
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/15 17:05:48 (permalink)
    Does maudio's manual for that card say its full duplexed at 96kHz or can it only record OR playback at 96khz, but not record and playback at 96kHz

    www.audio-mastering-mixing.com - A Professional Worldwide Audio Mixing & Mastering Studio, Providing Online And Attended Sessions. We also do TV commercials, Radio spots & spoken word books
    Audio Blog
    #2
    CJaysMusic
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 30423
    • Joined: 2006/10/28 01:51:41
    • Location: Miami - Fort Lauderdale - Davie
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/15 17:08:05 (permalink)
    Um below is from the link you posted above
    "Class compliancy supports 16-bit/48kHz 2 x 4 operation on OS X 10.3.9 and higher. Driver installation required to access more I/O."

    So its not full duplex at 96kHz. You already are using it to its fuillest potential.

    www.audio-mastering-mixing.com - A Professional Worldwide Audio Mixing & Mastering Studio, Providing Online And Attended Sessions. We also do TV commercials, Radio spots & spoken word books
    Audio Blog
    #3
    daveny5
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16934
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 09:54:36
    • Location: North Carolina
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/15 17:35:05 (permalink)
    Besides 96KHz is a waste unless you are recording an orchestra so don't sweat it. If you need to record an orchestra, you will need a lot better equipment. 

    Dave
    Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F
    Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX
    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
    Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. 
    Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
    #4
    kjs00333
    Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 292
    • Joined: 2008/02/22 15:50:49
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/23 13:51:53 (permalink)
    I didnt understand that "Class compliancy supports 16-bit/48kHz 2 x 4 operation on OS X 10.3.9 and higher. Driver installation required to access more I/O." indicated that it wasn't full duplex. But after talking to M-audio, they said since the device is USB 1.1, it is not full duplex, so I can only listen or record, not both. the Fast Track ultra supports it since its USB 2.0.
     
    Plus the product specs say nothing about it being USB 1.1, which is the main issue here.  I asked here mainly because I was not sure if it was an issue within Sonar, or the device itself. 
     
    Thanks for the clarification.
     
    #5
    bitflipper
    01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
    • Total Posts : 26036
    • Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
    • Location: Everett, WA USA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/23 16:32:22 (permalink)
    I'd say don't worry about it. Unless you have a specific need to record at 96KHz, record at 44.1 (or 48 if it makes you feel better) and be happy!


    All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. 

    My Stuff
    #6
    johnnyV
    Max Output Level: -48.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2677
    • Joined: 2010/02/22 11:46:33
    • Location: Here, in my chair
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/23 23:19:29 (permalink)
    I have the same interface and It is stuck at 44.1. I believe it also is something to do with how powerful your CPU is. It seems to say you can change to 48 , but will change back and flash a message saying the drivers have ruled against it. There's no reason to worry unless you are a professional studio. 44.1 is certainly better than using a cassette deck ;)
    Anyhow. I also just found out you cannot change from 16 to 24 bit unless you disable outputs 3/4. Read this thread from last week where I had this pointed out to me. Go to post #18 and you'll see the screen shots, and keep reading from there.

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2253007
    post edited by johnnyV - 2011/03/23 23:21:33

    Sonar X3e Studio - Waiting for Professional
     Scarlett 6i6
    Yamaha Gear= 01v - NSM 10 - DTX 400 - MG82cx
    Roland Gear= A 49- GR 50 - TR 505 - Boss pedals
    Tascam Gear=  DR 40 - US1641 -
    Mackie Gear= Mix 8 - SRM 350's 
    i5 Z97 3.2GHZ quad 16 Gig RAM W 8.1  home build
    Taylor mini GS - G& L Tribute Tele - 72 Fender Princeton - TC BH 250 - Mooer and Outlaw Pedals  Korg 05/RW
     
    #7
    kjs00333
    Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 292
    • Joined: 2008/02/22 15:50:49
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/28 17:46:06 (permalink)
    johnnyV


    I have the same interface and It is stuck at 44.1. I believe it also is something to do with how powerful your CPU is. It seems to say you can change to 48 , but will change back and flash a message saying the drivers have ruled against it. There's no reason to worry unless you are a professional studio. 44.1 is certainly better than using a cassette deck ;)
    Anyhow. I also just found out you cannot change from 16 to 24 bit unless you disable outputs 3/4. Read this thread from last week where I had this pointed out to me. Go to post #18 and you'll see the screen shots, and keep reading from there.

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2253007


       Johnny,
    I was able to get 24bit 48khz with all inputs enabled. Are you using the latest ASIO drivers for the product?

    #8
    johnnyV
    Max Output Level: -48.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2677
    • Joined: 2010/02/22 11:46:33
    • Location: Here, in my chair
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/29 00:31:08 (permalink)
    Yes they are the latest drivers for XP but they are not so new either. But as I said it is determined by your CPU , Mine will not allow the changes as I guess it determines I will have issues.
    My CPU is only a dual core AMD 3800 2.7mhz Its very slow.
    If you change the 44.1 to 48 it just changes back.
    In the M audio control panel 24 bit is grayed out until I disable 3/4.
    Look at my screen shots posted on that thread.
    I,m hoping all will be ok when I upgrade

    Sonar X3e Studio - Waiting for Professional
     Scarlett 6i6
    Yamaha Gear= 01v - NSM 10 - DTX 400 - MG82cx
    Roland Gear= A 49- GR 50 - TR 505 - Boss pedals
    Tascam Gear=  DR 40 - US1641 -
    Mackie Gear= Mix 8 - SRM 350's 
    i5 Z97 3.2GHZ quad 16 Gig RAM W 8.1  home build
    Taylor mini GS - G& L Tribute Tele - 72 Fender Princeton - TC BH 250 - Mooer and Outlaw Pedals  Korg 05/RW
     
    #9
    AT
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10654
    • Joined: 2004/01/09 10:42:46
    • Location: TeXaS
    • Status: offline
    Re:Audio interface question 2011/03/29 00:51:49 (permalink)
    Johnny,

    the usb 1.1 will do 96 kHz but only for in or out, not both.  Not enough bandwidth.  As others have said, 48/44.1 will get you duplex (both in/out).  40's are fine for recording - most R&R and pop studios use those rates.  I had (have) an ancient m-audio transit and that is how it works.

    The speed of your computer isn't an issue.  You first need to go to SONAr Options>Audio and switch it to 24 bit and 44.1 or 48 kHz.  On all the pages so SONAR doesn't get lost and switch back.  Close and open the M-audio controller software and change it to match your setttings in SONAR.  Then open sonar and return to Options >Audio and make sure they are still the same.  Then close everything down and open SONAR.  Hopefully it will stick and you can use duplex (in/out) at 24 bits and 48 or less kHz rate.

    @

    https://soundcloud.com/a-pleasure-dome
    http://www.bnoir-film.com/  
     
    there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
    #10
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1