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Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
That's what this report implies: http://www.digitalmusicdoctor.com/popularity/index.html From the report: For the first time in the five-year history of this analysis Avid Pro Tools fell out of the top position and was replaced by Cakewalk Sonar. You can come here to praise it or to bury it (I'm going with the indirect Ides of March reference here), but personally, I like working with software that is popular. There's a good chance it has a future in general, and thereby a future with me. Here's to a future!
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 19:26:28
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Looks like it's the 'most searched' according to that site.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 19:46:21
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Digital Music Doctor has some strange ideas about DAWs IMO. They base DAW popularity on search engine queries? I think that is a bit of a stretch but let's check the figures anyway: http://www.google.com/tre...mp;date=all&sort=1 According to that, "Cakewalk Sonar" or "Sonar X1" hardly registers compared to Pro Tools. Look at this one: http://www.google.com/tre...mp;date=ytd&sort=0 "Sonar" in general, which includes any normal mention of sonars, even generates only a bit more search volume and news volume compared to Pro Tools. I think that really questions Digital Music Doctors conclusions. Also, why don't they just give full disclosure of all the data they used to come to these conclusions? They always allude to stuff but never really spell it out which IMO disqualifies them as a reliable source. UnderTow
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 20:01:39
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Basic statistics. The sample size is not fixed nor are the number of groups defined therefore there is nothing conclusive you can derive from the poll. For example when I was involved in research many moons ago. We would define a sample area size called a hoop/ring then take repeated sample hoops across a species population area. The species that came up the most often across the hoop samples would be a dominant species. In the case of this poll, it would be as if a researcher walked into the forest and shouted "Hey who is the most dominant species?" Your results would come from those species that either heard you, and from that group, felt like responding or those who happened by. A population that happens by is not a valid sample set. Now, if they had a list of even 1000 DAW users and reached out to those who didn't find their site that might be more representative. It would also eliminate users calling their friends to skew the poll.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 20:38:13
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DMD has some interesting reviews, and their tutorials are not bad. But there is no way Sonar is anywhere ahead of PT, even just for music production (that's ignoring PT's role in post etc).
Maybe people are buying more of X1's videos instead of PT as they can't get X1 to work. j/k ;)
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 20:53:38
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 20:56:32
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i happen to have digital doctors sonar x1 training video,say im crazy if you want but i like it better than groove 3.it goes into detail on the newest vst and stuff like,perfect space,tube warmer channel tools.also two parts on mixing,two parts on mastering.and very affordable
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 21:14:47
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Don't believe everything you read. ProTools (yech) is still the top dog.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 21:20:02
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Future Music Jan 2011 issue said this: http://www.forum.producer...com/Topic1607-7-1.aspx " Future Music magazine declares SONAR X1 "still the best high-end DAW on the PC" Future Music is the latest publication to hand out their verdict on SONAR X1. In issue 235, they took a critical look at all areas of SONAR X1. Overall they loved the new look and workflow, stating that "it’s more efficient and it’s certainly better." Reviewer Kevin Redding proclaims, "the range and quality of effects and instruments that ship with the software justify its price alone and the refined workflow is second to none." Final verdict: "It’s slick, instant and packs some excellent features. Still the best high-end DAW on the PC."
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 21:21:22
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Yeah I have both because some clients ask for "PRO"Tools. It makes me laugh
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 22:04:16
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Is there really any way to get any kind of reliable data collection for this kind of stuff? AFAICT the best result of it is firing up a DAW's user base to go spam the polls or get into a rant-a-thon about everybody else.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 22:25:07
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What difference would it make (which is the most popular)? Wouldn't you just use the available tools at your disposal to make the best sounding music you possibly can? 
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 22:57:09
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It is partially my fault.
The forum search engine needs overhauling so I have been pounding out the Google/Cakewalk search trick to find answers to my questions.
Sorry for any inconvenience that I may have caused :-) .
Carry on...
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/15 22:58:56
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wormser
" Future Music magazine declares SONAR X1 "still the best high-end DAW on the PC"
The question isn't which is the best (which will vary depending on who answers the question) but which is the most popular. In other words, which one sells more copies. UnderTow
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 00:14:54
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UnderTow
wormser
" Future Music magazine declares SONAR X1 "still the best high-end DAW on the PC"
The question isn't which is the best (which will vary depending on who answers the question) but which is the most popular. In other words, which one sells more copies.
UnderTow
Personally, I could care less which is best, which sells more copies or which site's polls have been shilled by each DAW's fanbois and so forth. It's all meaningless. I use what works for me. I'm always on the look out for something better though.
post edited by wormser - 2011/03/16 00:16:29
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 00:39:16
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Mesh
What difference would it make (which is the most popular)?
Because most popular is better!  omg I hope SONAR gets elected student body president.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 02:30:55
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wormser
Future Music Jan 2011 issue said this:
http://www.forum.producersedgemagazine.com/Topic1607-7-1.aspx
" Future Music magazine declares SONAR X1 "still the best high-end DAW on the PC"
Future Music is the latest publication to hand out their verdict on SONAR X1. In issue 235, they took a critical look at all areas of SONAR X1. Overall they loved the new look and workflow, stating that "it’s more efficient and it’s certainly better." Reviewer Kevin Redding proclaims, "the range and quality of effects and instruments that ship with the software justify its price alone and the refined workflow is second to none."
Final verdict: "It’s slick, instant and packs some excellent features. Still the best high-end DAW on the PC."
That type of wording is also used by CM-Magazine - "Best PC-DAW". They litterally mean SONAR is the best PC-DAW, because it's PC-only. It's very convenient, because that can be understood leaving PT, Cubase and all multi-platform DAWs out of the comparison :o/ :o)
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 04:53:24
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What an ar*****. The guy is just promoting his books/videos with a press release styled post to get picked up by Google and the stupid mainstream press. How could X1 be the best DAW - it still only works for Scott and the chosen few. You'd only have to read the blood on the tracks in this forum and GS to know we all want it to work but it don't yet.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 06:19:59
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It also depends on which continent you're considering. UK recording magazines have mentioned from time to time how Sonar has a much higher market share in the US than in UK/Europe where Logic and Cubase took a early leads. A lot of CW's strategy in devising X1 is aimed at addressing that. Interestingly, a popularity vote on MusicRadar.com put Sonar 4th compared to Logic at 3rd and Reaper at No.1. With ProTools at 9th place I think this poll says more about the followers of MusicRadar than anything else! http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/the-11-best-digital-audio-workstations-238905/8#content
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 06:51:59
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1. I think they are talking PC only..... 2. Take reviews with a grain of salt. Example: Adam and Focal get great reviews. Now try and find a single person who hasn't had problems with these monitors right out of the box. Complete crap IMHO....
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/16 06:59:34
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It should be said that some of these things can be a marketing man's dream...or nightmare. If taken seriously...me...megh If it works on my PC ...fine...that's all care about.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/17 22:25:54
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FM/CM have been saying Sonar is the best PC DAW for years. They are refering to single platform, which PT is not.
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Re:Sonar currently the most popular DAW?
2011/03/17 23:30:05
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UnderTow
Digital Music Doctor has some strange ideas about DAWs IMO. They base DAW popularity on search engine queries? I think that is a bit of a stretch but let's check the figures anyway:
http://www.google.com/tre...mp;date=all&sort=1
According to that, "Cakewalk Sonar" or "Sonar X1" hardly registers compared to Pro Tools.
Look at this one: http://www.google.com/tre...mp;date=ytd&sort=0
"Sonar" in general, which includes any normal mention of sonars, even generates only a bit more search volume and news volume compared to Pro Tools. I think that really questions Digital Music Doctors conclusions.
Also, why don't they just give full disclosure of all the data they used to come to these conclusions? They always allude to stuff but never really spell it out which IMO disqualifies them as a reliable source.
UnderTow
Hmmm have a look at this graph > Here < which IMO is a little more disturbing, and OMG what was New Zealand thinking! -
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