Fantom VS

Hi!

There are a lot of discussion about the console, Sonar, the preamps or converters in the rack but really fews about the Fantom vs.

I was thinking at one point if I really needed the Fantom in my setup since I'm a guitarist and a very poor keyboard player.  So for my next upgrade I was asking myself the need to have the Fantom in the interface.

Don't forget the Fantom is a big part of the price, if we think that the VS700R is an Octa-Capture ($599) with just 1 ADAT I/O, ARX slot and and just 1 direct mix instead of 4...  I had to ask myself if it is worth the extra $1000...

I found the answer some days ago.   A friend of mine came here, which is a pretty good keyboard player, and sat down with my midi controller while I was swapping the Fantom patches.  Holy damn sh!t!!!  There are SO MUCH great stuff in this box!!! The strings, brass, ochestra and synth patches (over 5-600!!) were EPIC!!! This synth is an ABSOLUTE killng machine and I easilly imagine layering sounds to create incredibly dense, articulated and rich orchestra parts... That was simply ridiculous in fact. Our jaws both fell on the floor many times, laughing together in the presence of such power!  I found the drums a little weak but my ARX-01 board is absolutely incredible and realistic so I recommend it for other who think the same. The editability are far beyond what Session drummer may offer, even if session drummer is definaletly great, which I use to load my custom drum waves.

So, getting 8 more inputs via ADAT, an ARX slot and this incredible Fantom vs is really well worth $1000 in my opinion.  2x 128 voices polyphony from the each Fantom, 128 for each ARX plus Rapture, Dimention Pro and Z3ta bundled with Sonar, I don't know what could stop me!!!  Just add some of the direct mix functionnalities of the Octa-Capture (at least separate Digi1/Sub/Main mixes, even if it mean adding or changing a piece in the hardware) and we would be in presence of perfection.

So does anyone want to share its experience?
Thanks Roland and Cakewalk for this wonderful piece of gear!!

Hey there Dyonight !

Always good to read your post

I am the same as your self I dont play much Keys I started with the Guitar and then took to Drums that are now my main instument and source of income

I was in the same situation as you with the Fantom just like you I hada friend come round who could play and we were both tottaly shocked by the power of the Fantom

I know I wont use it every day but knowing that I have it there if I bring some one in to the studio who can play keys or needs a specific sound then I will find it on there and I know its going to sound good !

I found the same with the Drum sounds as you did but I always feel that way with most drum samples Samples Session drummer is ok but I have only used it a couple of times if I am honest.
I have Superior drummer with the upgrades and its good but there Tec support is the worst I have come across and geting it to work right with my TD-20 has always been a nighmare from the word go.
They were happy to take my money but not happy to offer help in regards to operation of there product.

I have just become an artist for Steven Slate Drums and I am blowen away by the sounds from the kits and the instant mapping to the TD-20
I will now be useing Steven slate Drums for all my Recordings in the Studio here unless of course I am going to Mic a Kit.

Like you said though with the Fantom the sounds are incredible and I think my friend is now thinking of buying one after trying it !

One disapointing thing about the Fantom for me was the Sound fx I like haveing lots of sound Fx to play with and the Fantom hasnt got that many in fact I think there exactly the same as the ones on the TTS1  ( correct me if I am wrong )

With that said though its by no meens any reason to not but it if I want sound FX thats what the internets for

I will be geting an Octo-capture in the first part of april so I will let you know how I find that !

All the best man!

Norrie

Hi Sacalait,
al though I'm out of subject, how do you record your Motif XF ? Go through the Mytec, or any other way ?
As it is question about synth patches, have you tried Omnisphere by Spectrasonics ?

Thanks to satisfy my curiosity

Hi SacalaitThanks for your attention!
Concerning the Motif, I have a Motif XS and I have always struggled to manage recording all the subtleties of the performances. When you hear  the Motif directly by headphones, the sound is fantastic, but after recording process, I could feel some degradation (maybe because I recorded into a mere multitrack Roland VS 2400 which has its own recording format (?)
I was just asking for Omni because this virtual instrument seems to be unanimity for all those who have used it, everyone seems really conquered by this. (apparently, huge sound and infinite editing possibilities)

LANEY


It is why I have the VS system!!

VS for the WIN  !

Yeah it worked... not as good as in 32 bit but I was able to use it via bitbridge.  I'm back to 32 bits for now since there's a lot less issues for me.

Sorry to keep bothering you guys but was this a fix in X1 or is there a fix for 8.5.3 ?? Im really not ready to jump to X1 till everything is fixed..A little later down the road perhaps... 8.5.3 is doing fine for me at this point. I still have so much to learn about what I have.....LOL.. It sure would be nice to get the fantom editor to work though. It doesn't work for me :-(  The quick fix download didn't work either

That is definately a newer update to the hotfix...I will check that out when I get home... Thanks Norrie...you have possibly made me a happy puppy....LOL

I got the definitions and can load that way but I still can't get the editor to produce any audio   :-(.. I have been playing with it a bit ..There is some really cool stuff in there and a lot of it.... Thanks Norrie

You're right it is a very important thing to know in x64. A sticky post would really help a lot of users.