Acronis or Paragon???

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2011/03/21 14:40:41 (permalink)

Acronis or Paragon???

So Im upgrading my OS to Win7 64 finally, So I can run PT 9 on my main PC... I had Acronis true image on it already but since its an OEM version I will loose after the upgrade...

I have paragon on my ADK laptop, but I have never had to use it....

The main difference that leads me more to Acronis is the Acronis Safe Zone, I dont think paragon has such a feature?


So, Which do you guys think is better and what would you get and why?

Also any experiences with either??

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    kurrykid
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/21 18:43:36 (permalink)
    I had terrible luck with Acronis on Windows 7, 64 bit.  I could never get it to work.  Even when Tech Support logged onto my machine (several times), they couldn't get it working either.  Although there is a 30 day money back gaurantee with them, they will make you work for it to get it back.  I finally did though.

    I can't comment on the other one as I have no experience with it.

    HTH

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/21 21:54:46 (permalink)
    I don't know anything about paragon, but I use acronis.

    I haven't had any problems using it with win7x64, tho.

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/21 22:13:35 (permalink)
    Kurrykid: Is it possible that you had an older version? Supposedly they only recently added 64 bit support in True Imagae 2011

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/21 23:00:10 (permalink)
    No I had the most recent version...I just went through it about a month ago.  I really wish I could have figured it out though because I was looking for that type of solution and haven't found anything to replace it yet.
     

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/23 22:56:17 (permalink)
    kurrykid: What exactly was the problem? Can you be more specific about why it didnt work or what was wrong?

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/24 00:42:11 (permalink)
    It would loose the connection to the network drive everytime a backup would run.  I was using a NAS (Iomega) and it just wouldn't connect reliably.  I read some forum postings about using the mapped drive instead of a letter name (i.e. //iomegadrive instead w:/backups) but that didn't work either.  Like I said, I had tech support log on from Acronis at least 3 times and they couldn't figure it out either.

    I had heard good things about Acronis (our IT department uses it quite a bit at work) but I couldn't get it working for me.

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/24 04:29:22 (permalink)
    I've used True Image countless times...
    Paragon is also an excellent tool.
    Can't make a bad decision either way... 

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/24 12:31:35 (permalink)
    Paragon, looks very interesting!

    I notice they also have Drive Copy 11 Professional for $39.95, this might be all I need primarily to backup (clone/copy) my main h/drive C: (O/S, Programs, Drivers, Settings, Activations)! Easily transfer from one drive to another without having to reinstall programs, drivers, settings.

    Question:
    Is anyone familiar with Drive Copy 11 Professional,  is this ideal (successful) for backing up the main h/drive (C: O/S, Prog', Drivers, Settings, Activations)?



     
     
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/25 16:09:38 (permalink)
    Isn't anyone familiar with that particular Pragon software (Drive Copy 11 Professional)?

    I guess not.

    There are other contenders, 'considering MY specific setup (XP SP2), and that I primarily want it for 'clone backup' (O/S, Drivers, Settings, Activations)!

      Other Backup Software:

    . NovaBackup (apparently rated #1 for ease of use and reliability)
    . DT Utilities PC Backup
    . Genie Backup Management
    . Acronis True Image (no need to install (portable) but there's been a few negative reviews)!
    . Easeus Backup Tool
    . NTI Backup
    . Norton Ghost (no need to install (portable) can backup entire system but a little more complicated to setup/configure correctly)
    . Power Backup
    . Turbo Backup
    . Paragon Hard Disk Manager
    . Paragon Drive Copy 11 Professional
    . DriveImage Free for personal use but no support, or from $100 for 5 licenses - for commercial use + support.

    post edited by SongCraft - 2011/03/25 19:40:04

     
     
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/26 07:10:56 (permalink)
    I use Acronis, and recommend it to my clients (I do part-time PC support).  The ones using it have no problems. 

    I do full (all partitions) hard drive backups.  If a drive were to fail or be corrupted I can rebuild the drive in about an hour.   Full all partition backups are needed as most new PC's do not come with reinstallation discs, just the "recovery partition" on the hard drive to reinstall and if the hard drive were to fail (out of warranty) the user is SOL.

    All of the "Techies" that I know use Acronis.

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/26 14:32:59 (permalink)
    From Acronis website > requirements > supported O/S:
  • Windows 7 all Editions
  • Windows Vista all Editions SP2
  • Windows XP Home Edition (X32, SP3)
  • Windows XP Professional (X32/X64, SP2) 



        QUOTE:  considering MY specific setup (XP SP2)

    Has anyone using XP Home 32, SP2 had any success with the current version of Acronis?


    If I were to purchase TIH 2011, Acronis probably wouldn't support me as I wouldn't be using an approved OS.  I might be stuck with a piece of useless software.  How can I 'confirm' for sure that a successful backup and recovery will absolutely work by trying out the demo?    If I knew what particular update(s) was in SP3 that is required for TIH 2011 to work successfully then I might give it a go.


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    post edited by SongCraft - 2011/03/26 14:48:09

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/03/30 23:47:22 (permalink)
    Songcraft,
     
    If you can try the Acronis demo (and are comfortable editing the registry), here's a way to "trick" an XP-SP2 system into thinking it's SP3:
     
     http://www.tricksnhacking.com/converting-windows-xp-sp2-to-sp3-with-no-installation-simple-trick/
     
    Just to be safe, though, make a backup (export) of the registry before you do anything.
     
    Good luck.
     

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/01 03:29:20 (permalink)
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    Songcraft,
     
    If you can try the Acronis demo (and are comfortable editing the registry), here's a way to "trick" an XP-SP2 system into thinking it's SP3:
     
     http://www.tricksnhacking.com/converting-windows-xp-sp2-to-sp3-with-no-installation-simple-trick/
     
    Just to be safe, though, make a backup (export) of the registry before you do anything.
     
    Good luck.
     
    Thanks Jon,

    I'll look into that reg hack (Bookmarked), and yeah I will most definitely backup the registry before I attempt that reg tweak, but I'm not sure if that will be OK with my older software's which requires specifically SP2 or works best with SP2.

    Anyway at the very least, worse case scenario I have backups of my audio and midi projects.

    Eventually (by late 2011 or early 2012) I'm going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade my O/S (Windows 7, Professional) along with upgrades to various programs (Sonar, Sony Vegas, Photoshop, DreamWeaver and others)!! Costly, but worth it, but oh boy I'm going need to start save, save, saving money.


     
     
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/03 05:44:58 (permalink)
    Just to add to my earlier post...

    I recently built a Win7-64 machine, and unfortunately my copy of True Image isn't compatible... so, today I went surfing for a replacement, and long story short, downloaded Paragon Backup & Recovery.  This is the free, home-use-only version.

    Well, let me just say, it puts Windows 7's built in backup/imaging utility to shame!  In fact, Paragon includes wizards and advanced options, as well as lets you create and use bootable media.  Basically, I'd put it on par with True Image - and that costs $40!

    I just did a test backup and restore -- and it performed without a hitch.  If you've never used a backup imaging app before, it might seem a bit confusing at first, but the Help section is, well... helpful -- and you can always go back a screen or two to correct a setting if you make a mistake.

    Bottom line, I just saved $40, and found a reliable imaging app that I'll be recommending to all my friends.


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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/03 23:27:41 (permalink)
    Free version of Paragon

    Wow Jon, great find :)

    Funny, I did go to that site last week and did not see it. Now I just downloaded it and noticed it has quite a lot of neat features which is excellent for a freebie.

    I'm unfamiliar with how to run the backup and recovery, I guess it's not difficult!?! Anyway, I also downloaded the manual.

     
     
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/04 00:54:00 (permalink)
    There I am raving about the program, and didn't even provide a link.  Thanks for that, Songcraft!

    To answer your question - no, it's not hard, but I've been using imaging programs for about a decade, so even if something isn't clearcut I can usually figure it out.

    I didn't even check to see if there was a manual -LOL.  The only general advice I can give is to pay close attention to your source and target partitions/drives.  IOW, you want to keep them straight because that's probably the only setting that might cause problems - and it'll be catastrophic if you get them backwards (you'd be overwriting your system drive with the target drive).

    Also, make sure you create a bootable media (CD/DVD or flash drive).  CD is the easiest, and it'll prompt you to do this at the end, so it's hard to miss. 

    Feel free to post or PM me if you have any questions.


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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/04 03:41:39 (permalink)
    I use & like Acronis. The one problem I had with it (and it was a major one) was when I used "Try & Decide", which is supposed to let you try out software and return to the previous state or accept the changes it makes to your system. I ended up having to modify my MBR to get my system back -- I couldn't even boot up with the Acronis recovery CD. An Acronis tech talked me through the procedure, and he was clearly reading from a script -- that told me I wasn't the first to experience this.

    Other than that, it's great. I think I'm still on v.10, so maybe they've fixed it.

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/05 01:54:37 (permalink)
    Thanks again Jon, greatly appreciate your help.

    At the mo I've been resting after a scare at the hospital. I'll be OK, I'll get back to work soon.

     
     
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/08 20:58:56 (permalink)
    Update: So i went with Acronis and i could not be happier... Set up was a breeze and everything worked as expectedon my Win7X64 machine....

    Only thing that bothered me was that in 2011 true image you cant leave coments about the backup until after the backup is complete... Not a big deal at...

    So thanx for all your input guys...



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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/18 14:37:48 (permalink)
    Acronis, Inc. is an international computer software company, dealing in the breadth of computer backup, storage management in both Windows and Linux systems. If you make a mistake and delete a file or mess up your entire system, Acronis Nonstop Backup is your savior.
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/18 16:23:59 (permalink)

    If you make a mistake and delete a file or mess up your entire system, Acronis Nonstop Backup is your savior.

     
    If you actually knew what you were talking about... your advice might be useful. 
    FYI: You don't want any "non-stop" backup routine running in the background on a DAW!
     
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/18 17:48:49 (permalink)
    +1 for Acronis. I've been using it for years first in Windows XP and now in Windows 7 x64. I'm presently using True Image 2010. I've never had a problem with any version and it's saved me several times. I should add that I don't use the extra bells and whistles like Secure Zone, etc. I use it solely for backing up partitions, and  I always restore from the boot CD, unless I'm restoring individual files.
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/04/19 10:39:56 (permalink)
    The weather is nice when it's sunny.
    You should enjoy the warm temperature.
    If the temperature gets too hot, an air-conditioner is your savior.
    Both your car and house probably have air-conditioning units.

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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/05/09 01:17:49 (permalink)
    You can also select files from Online File Folder to restore to your backup server.Acronis Universal Deploy provides a simple way for you to deploy new systems with different hardware or to virtual systems.
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/05/24 01:03:00 (permalink)
    Acronis runs like greased lightning compared with paragon. System of Incremental backups seems easier to manage. Individual file restore can be done even from "Image" backups. Backups can be made to networked devices . Paragon *might* have improved since I last tried it -- all I can say that I've been using ACRONIS for at least 5 years now with never a hiccup either. Acronis will even backup and restore LINUX partitions - and the Universal restore feature means you can restore an image to UNLIKE hardware and load drivers -- I use this quite frequently in creating Virtual Machines from an existing windows image. For things like backups its worth paying - even though I like using opensource or free software when I can get hold of it. Just think how much it would cost to replace a music library if you didn't have backup. I'd go for Acronis. It doesn't cost a fortune -- you can get a free trial to see if you like it anyway. I think the FREE version of paragon is quite hobbled compared with a paid for version in any case.
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2011/05/24 02:51:14 (permalink)
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    Acronis runs like greased lightning compared with paragon. System of Incremental backups seems easier to manage. Individual file restore can be done even from "Image" backups. Backups can be made to networked devices . Paragon *might* have improved since I last tried it -- all I can say that I've been using ACRONIS for at least 5 years now with never a hiccup either. Acronis will even backup and restore LINUX partitions - and the Universal restore feature means you can restore an image to UNLIKE hardware and load drivers -- I use this quite frequently in creating Virtual Machines from an existing windows image. For things like backups its worth paying - even though I like using opensource or free software when I can get hold of it. Just think how much it would cost to replace a music library if you didn't have backup. I'd go for Acronis. It doesn't cost a fortune -- you can get a free trial to see if you like it anyway. I think the FREE version of paragon is quite hobbled compared with a paid for version in any case.
    It's all a matter of perspective.  I work in IT, use Acronis at work, but for my home use, Paragon-free fits the bill just dandy.  And I promise you, the vast majority of folks here stopped reading your post right around the time you started mentioning Linux partitions and Virtual Machines.... or at least until they reached your online casino spamming. 



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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2012/12/13 07:09:50 (permalink)
    Paragon include disk management utilities acronis true image doesn't, you have to buy disk director in addition to manage your drive, check this article for detailed comparison http://www.acroniscoupon....hard-disk-manager.html
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    Re:Acronis or Paragon??? 2012/12/14 00:07:22 (permalink)
    I needed to clone an old drive for a friend with an old OS etc via my pc... as he wanted to upgrade his drive to a bigger size... an old version of paragon (on a magazine dvd) was the only thing that did it..

    and yep I'm a acronis 2011 true image home owner ... *BUT* I had their part manager in the past and it let me down badly , and couldn't format a drive properly for vista!! (when gparted *FREE* could!!!)  *AND* they didn't seem to want to honour their 30-day money back guarantee.. so I am not their biggest fan and like others they seem rather fond of a yearly upgrade model.

    also check online as it was *FAR* cheaper for me to buy a full version ELSEWHERE than directly!!


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