SteveKG
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One shot, one kill!
Ahh ... finally! One-shot sample preview. It's like night and day :)
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 01:09:34
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i know man! THANK YOU CW FOR THIS SOOO MUCH
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ba_midi
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 01:18:44
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SteveKG
Ahh ... finally! One-shot sample preview. It's like night and day :)
Yes indeed. Unfortunately the "Preview at host tempo" is now broken :(
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 01:53:15
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Well the preview is working for me thank God x 1b is great and i love it for my post production work. it is good to see that there are other who like it also. \ keep it positive
peace
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 02:48:45
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williamsblackman
Well the preview is working for me thank God x 1b is great and i love it for my post production work. it is good to see that there are other who like it also. \ keep it positive
peace
Are you saying "previewing AUDIO loops at host tempo" is working for you in X1B? Are you very sure of this?
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 03:10:15
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YES i am playing with it right now
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 03:33:04
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Doesn't work for me either Billy - ie open a project, preview a loop (rx2 or wav I've tried so far) in the browser. Stop the preview, change tempo, play the loop - no difference in tempo.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 09:14:11
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 10:34:36
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Bigdogs
Doesn't work for me either Billy - ie open a project, preview a loop (rx2 or wav I've tried so far) in the browser. Stop the preview, change tempo, play the loop - no difference in tempo.
Simon
Seems hit or miss here. I haven't been able to find a pattern - sometimes I can preview at Host Tempo, sometimes I change the tempo and no change in the loop. Something definitely wonky, though. I thought maybe acidized loops play fine - but they don't seem to consistently either.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 10:43:16
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Loops aren't something I ordinarily use but if I go to browser/audio library and try to play a loop I don't even get a sound...am I missing something?
Thanks,
Randy
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 11:39:44
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g_randybrown
Loops aren't something I ordinarily use but if I go to browser/audio library and try to play a loop I don't even get a sound...am I missing something?
Thanks,
Randy
Yes - you have to assign a bus - next to the "Media" selection in the browser click the small downward arrow and select "Audio Preview Bus" - then select the bus that corresponds to where/how you want your audio file to be previewed.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 11:53:18
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This is very odd.
It seems to be working here for me. I have a lot of drum audio loops, and they are all working at host tempo for me. Any change to the tempo in Sonar is automatically reflected in the loop. I even went through the content included with X1 (loopmasters, etc...) and it's all working fine too.
System specs provided in signature in case anyone is comparing setups.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 12:01:02
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Brando
g_randybrown
Loops aren't something I ordinarily use but if I go to browser/audio library and try to play a loop I don't even get a sound...am I missing something?
Thanks,
Randy
Yes - you have to assign a bus - next to the "Media" selection in the browser click the small downward arrow and select "Audio Preview Bus" - then select the bus that corresponds to where/how you want your audio file to be previewed.
That was it, thank you sir. FWIW though tempo makes no difference here either. Thanks again Brando, Randy
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 12:50:38
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codamedia
This is very odd.
It seems to be working here for me. I have a lot of drum audio loops, and they are all working at host tempo for me. Any change to the tempo in Sonar is automatically reflected in the loop. I even went through the content included with X1 (loopmasters, etc...) and it's all working fine too.
System specs provided in signature in case anyone is comparing setups.
Coda - you are correct - the Cakewalk loops sync fine. I think the key is that the loops have to be either Rex, or groove clips/acid loops to sync with tempo.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 12:50:52
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g_randybrown
Loops aren't something I ordinarily use but if I go to browser/audio library and try to play a loop I don't even get a sound...am I missing something?
Thanks,
Randy
Randy, this is relating to AUDIO LOOPS .... I don't know if MIDI loops are affected. And it appears some can get it to work a bit and others not. So it's hard to know what' really going on. The easy test (at least for this one scenario) is to have a project with some tracks. Open the browser and navigate to a folder where you keep audio loops. Find a loop that is NOT in the same tempo as your project (ie, if project is at 120bpm find loops that are at 125bpm). Start play ... click on the loop(s) to audition. Listen for a bar or two. Tempo does not sync up. Make sure "Preview at host tempo" is checked in the Media Tab options of the browser, of course. There may be other scenarios as well.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 12:54:43
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codamedia
This is very odd.
It seems to be working here for me. I have a lot of drum audio loops, and they are all working at host tempo for me. Any change to the tempo in Sonar is automatically reflected in the loop. I even went through the content included with X1 (loopmasters, etc...) and it's all working fine too.
System specs provided in signature in case anyone is comparing setups.
Sean, that is weird, though I doubt that system specs play a role here. I had problems with loops in X1 and X1A, albeit a different problem (which is fixed now at least). What sample rate and bit depth do you work at generally?
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 12:57:00
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Brando
codamedia
This is very odd.
It seems to be working here for me. I have a lot of drum audio loops, and they are all working at host tempo for me. Any change to the tempo in Sonar is automatically reflected in the loop. I even went through the content included with X1 (loopmasters, etc...) and it's all working fine too.
System specs provided in signature in case anyone is comparing setups.
Coda - you are correct - the Cakewalk loops sync fine. I think the key is that the loops have to be either Rex, or groove clips/acid loops to sync with tempo.
You may be right. When I first heard of this issue (e.B. mentioned it), I only tried regular commercial wav loops (acidized) from some big loop libraries I use, which didn't sync up.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 13:07:20
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Preview At Host Tempo only works with clips that are groove clips, acid clips, rex files... those that have transient information in the file. Regular audio files are not previewed at host tempo because they don't contain any tempo information. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar X1 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free SoundTech Vocal Trainer Package, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free i2i Stream Wireless Music Pack, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 13:23:52
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Hi Scott with all my respect i completely disagree.......I have purchased a Sample Pack ,Muttekki Media"House Maister",with 16 bit 44100 sr not acidized loops,and in the X1 all was in tempo host....I'm sure!!!!!
After X1b install the loops are out of sync,that's all...
Best regards
Roby
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 13:31:49
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GIM Productions
Hi Scott with all my respect i completely disagree.......I have purchased a Sample Pack ,Muttekki Media"House Maister",with 16 bit 44100 sr not acidized loops,and in the X1 all was in tempo host....I'm sure!!!!!
After X1b install the loops are out of sync,that's all...
Best regards
Roby
Hi Roby, Hmm... then it looks like some people are experiencing one thing and others another. Something very strange is definitely going on. Best, Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar X1 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/ Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free SoundTech Vocal Trainer Package, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/ Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free i2i Stream Wireless Music Pack, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 13:59:55
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garrigus
Preview At Host Tempo only works with clips that are groove clips, acid clips, rex files... those that have transient information in the file.
Regular audio files are not previewed at host tempo because they don't contain any tempo information.
Scott
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The problem, Scott - is that something is broken even with acidized /loop files too.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 14:16:25
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ba_midi
williamsblackman
Well the preview is working for me thank God x 1b is great and i love it for my post production work. it is good to see that there are other who like it also. \ keep it positive
peace
Are you saying "previewing AUDIO loops at host tempo" is working for you in X1B?
Are you very sure of this?
I've tried various loops and previewing at host tempo is definately working for me. Gary
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 15:09:06
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williamsblackman
Well the preview is working for me thank God x 1b is great and i love it for my post production work. it is good to see that there are other who like it also. \ keep it positive
peace
Are you saying "previewing AUDIO loops at host tempo" is working for you in X1B?
Are you very sure of this?
I've tried various loops and previewing at host tempo is definately working for me.
Gary
Gary, That's interesting. So there has to be some common denomitor that is causing the issue for me and others. May I ask what sample rate and bit depth you work in? When I first heard of this issue, it took me about 4 seconds to reproduce it. So it's a head scratcher.
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 19:22:15
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ba_midi
gefitch
ba_midi
williamsblackman
Well the preview is working for me thank God x 1b is great and i love it for my post production work. it is good to see that there are other who like it also. \ keep it positive
peace
Are you saying "previewing AUDIO loops at host tempo" is working for you in X1B?
Are you very sure of this?
I've tried various loops and previewing at host tempo is definately working for me.
Gary
Gary,
That's interesting. So there has to be some common denomitor that is causing the issue for me and others.
May I ask what sample rate and bit depth you work in?
When I first heard of this issue, it took me about 4 seconds to reproduce it. So it's a head scratcher.
I generally record in 44.1/24bit...that may change at some point, but right now that's where I'm at. Just to make sure I'm clear on what I'm experiencing... 1. Without playing a track, both the Loop Preview (Loop Preview checked) and the One Hit (Loop Preview unchecked) change according to the tempo. 2. With a track playing, the Loop Preview (Loop Preview checked) changes tempo and always falls on the measure like you would think it should. 3. With a track playing, the One Hit (Loop Preview unchecked) changes tempo but falls wherever I happen to play it, which is not necessarily on the measure...which could sound like it is not following the current project tempo, even though it is. I'm not sure a One Hit is supposed to always fall on the measure? That might be annoying if you are trying to cobble together a solo from various loops and each loop always started on the measure instead of being able to audition it where you want it to fall in the track. Hmm? This is new to me... Is the One Hit not falling on the measure boundry what is being suggested as broken?
post edited by gefitch - 2011/03/24 19:24:44
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 19:45:29
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Gary,
I don't know if you've been following the other thread about auditioning loops, but it appears what's actually broken is that X1B won't "preview at host tempo" for NON-acidized files, so that may be why you're seeing what you do and I'm seeing what I (and others) do.
Hopefully CW 'sees' it ;)
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 20:19:16
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I've been checking this (Preview Loops At Host Tempo) issue with the loops included in X1 (those from Loop Masters and Smart Loops.) Clicking on various loops. Changing the directory and clicking on various loops. Stopping the playback and changing the tempo, starting playback, and clicking on various loops. In my experience, some times it works in sync with the host tempo and some times it doesn't. I wish it worked consistently all the time.
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2011/03/24 20:21:35
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 20:28:30
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drumr
Same here!
"Same here" for which post?
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Re:One shot, one kill!
2011/03/24 20:46:18
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This is very odd.
It seems to be working here for me. I have a lot of drum audio loops, and they are all working at host tempo for me. Any change to the tempo in Sonar is automatically reflected in the loop. I even went through the content included with X1 (loopmasters, etc...) and it's all working fine too.
System specs provided in signature in case anyone is comparing setups.
Sean, that is weird, though I doubt that system specs play a role here. I had problems with loops in X1 and X1A, albeit a different problem (which is fixed now at least).
What sample rate and bit depth do you work at generally?
I usually work at 44.1 / 24. I'll change that to 48 / 24 when requested or when I need to collaborate with someone with those settings. I've tried this with a variety of audio loops. 1: The included loops with Sonar 2: The Mick Fleetwood loops 3: A large collection of 3rd party drum loops in several styles. (from a variety of vendors) 4: Mostly wav/aiff loops, but a few rex file seem to be in there as well. I have no idea was is "acidized" or not to be honest. I don't know a whole bunch about loops, and usually use midi loops myself. I have a stock pile of drum audio loops just to throw quick ideas in place for myself or clients when needed. In every case that I have tested, it is following the host tempo.
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