CD burning, mastering.

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2011/03/24 11:43:55 (permalink)

CD burning, mastering.

Hello,
I hope someone out there can help. I've recorded my music, laboured over the mix, run each track through Boost 11, to raise the volume and smooth it all out, and I'm happy with the sound. I've burned my CD and I've got my album, but there's a subtle problem!
 
The problem is that I would like to adjust the volume of each track slightly to have a consistent level throught the CD. There are 20 short tracks and I've gone back and made some tweaks to each individual track, but hearing each track in isolation like that doesn't really help.
 
I need some CD burning software that lays all the tracks out together, each with it's own little volume control, so that I can listen and manually adjust each track. I'm finding that the automatic volume control on CD burning software is not sophisticated enough to smooth out the slight differences.
 
Does anybody know of some software that can do this? It's seems like a basic idea to me but Ive tried many CD burning and music editing pieces of software and this simple function doesn't seem to exist!
 
Thank you for your time.
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    Michael M
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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/24 12:12:49 (permalink)
    Why not just import all the tracks into SHS and adjust levels there?
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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/24 13:07:33 (permalink)
    you can do that in SHS by importing tracks back into it like Michael suggests, or your CD burning software will usually have a function for that as well (but personally I don't trust those).

    which burning software are you using?  there's usually a preference setting to to that.

    CD Architect is really the best kind of software to do these types of tasks, but it's not cheap.

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/24 14:23:24 (permalink)
    Michael M


    Why not just import all the tracks into SHS and adjust levels there?


    I think treesbygb meant 'songs' when he said tracks.  Not like instrument tracks...

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/25 03:21:04 (permalink)
    Thank you all for your replies and I apologise for accidently posting this query twice. My computer crashed and I thought the first post wasn't put up!

    Yes, Slugbaby is correct. I used the wrong terminology, as my songs are instrumental I called them tracks. I've thought about how to use SHS but apart from ending up with a 43 minute song, it's not going to work.

    In answer to Beagle, I've used a plethora of free CD burning software, al the usual ones and not so usual! But it seems, unsurprisingly, that I'll have to pay to get the one that does what I want. I'll have a look at CD architecture, but as my album (wrong terminology again, but it's my age!) is a one off it might not be worth it.

    I'm now going to post a query about mastering.....

    Thanks again.
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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/25 10:09:02 (permalink)
    Use SONAR.
    Click Track 1, import the audio. Make sure the Now line is all the way to the beginning.
    Click Track 2. Import audio.
    Track 3, ditto and etc.
    You should end up with all your songs on different tracks starting at measure 1. Then you can listen and/or see how loud they are in relation to each other, adjusting the volumes as necessary so they're all at the same level.
    Once done, export each track to the CD burning software. Or Windows Media Player.

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/25 10:25:33 (permalink)
    Thanks Greg,
    So simple! I'm now kicking myself for not thinking of this myself!
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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/03/30 16:44:41 (permalink)
    I do the exact same thing as Greg suggests. 

    Couple details to possibly try that I use: set the meters to "Lock Peaks" and "RMS" (I'm typing from work right now, doing this from memory, haha; so those might not be the exact right terms, but something like that).  And as Greg also infers, one of the best ways to measure is strictly by viewing the meters with the sound to your monitors/phones off.  Shows you exactly where you stand with all your song volume relationships.

    Works really well and takes the subjectivity out of the equation.

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/18 19:25:25 (permalink)
    The problem with importing all of your songs into one project.. at least with Home Studio 4.0 is that all of your songs when you export them will the length of your longest song.. if they fixed that I stand corrected.  What I do is setup a new project using the Mastering template.  This template has the Cake effects loaded into the Master effects bin for that purpose.  I especially like the tape simulator effect. using the 15ips speed and EQ.  You can put a comp in the track effects bin as well, if you really want to squeeze the song.  Use the Master output meters as your standard to setup your levels.  Import each song into this template, then export when you get the songs sounding like you want.  By using the common "mastering" setup, you should have consistant levels for each song. 

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/19 01:06:18 (permalink)
    In 7 they will all be as long as the longest, so you have to select each one and export them individually

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/24 16:31:25 (permalink)
    mxz583


    In 7 they will all be as long as the longest, so you have to select each one and export them individually


    Mxz... in 4, even when you export them individually.. the songs are still as long as the longest song.. Before I figured out my other scenario.. I had to re-import each song into another project and edit out the silence at the end.. PIA for sure!

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/24 19:44:06 (permalink)
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    mxz583

    In 7 they will all be as long as the longest, so you have to select each one and export them individually
    Mxz... in 4, even when you export them individually.. the songs are still as long as the longest song.. Before I figured out my other scenario.. I had to re-import each song into another project and edit out the silence at the end.. PIA for sure!
    That's only if you select the entire range of the project before exporting.  If all that you are exporting originates from a single audio clip, then just clicking on the clip will select the correct time range.

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/25 18:10:18 (permalink)
    Ok thats my fault i didn't realize you were using 4

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/28 17:51:52 (permalink)
    no problem mxz.. Kev999.. I guess its still a version 4 issue as that's not true.  If you highlight a track aka song to export from a project and just that track.. it still exports as long as the longest song.  I guess they have fixed that in later versions.  I think my work around is the better way anyway

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    Re:CD burning, mastering. 2011/04/28 18:13:07 (permalink)
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    If you highlight a track aka song to export from a project and just that track.. it still exports as long as the longest song.
    Don't highlight the track, just highlight the clip (i.e. by clicking on it).

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