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Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
Hi gang, I finally got my X1 upgrade and realized after running on the machine in my sig below, that I need a new machine. It still runs 8.5 ok. I only use a few soft synths and a bit of audio but this may start to bump up once I have more power. I have decided on a I5 quad core CPU and I really want a MoBo that is going to give me minimal issues. I am leaning towards this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/G...035XU0YU/ref=de_a_smtd As I have vouchers for Amazon and that is the only one I can find with Firewire port for my Firebox. Can anyone suggest something better around the same price? I am a bit worried about reading about chipsets etc... I'm going to put 4 GB ram in there and probably use Win 7 32 bit, also use my current Antec tower, HDDs and GFX card. I'm in a bit of a dilema.... Thanks in advance. Sam.
post edited by SilverfoxUK - 2011/03/25 12:07:57
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/25 12:37:28
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at this point you should only be building a sandy bridge system. (Socket 1155) not 1156
far better for same $
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SilverfoxUK
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 04:15:11
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jcschild
at this point you should only be building a sandy bridge system. (Socket 1155) not 1156
far better for same $
Hi Scott, i'm not really sure of the difference but I know you are speaking from experience after looking at your other posts. I will ensure I go down the sandy beach route. Thanks. Any good motherboard you recommend that is reasonably priced, will perform well and have firewire? Cheers,
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 04:23:50
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 06:31:42
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I've seen comments on the Windows 7 and gearslutz forums about very poor (or non existent) support from Gigabyte. Something to consider.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 10:22:48
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you can ignore that nonsense on the slutz forum
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 10:30:54
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SilverfoxUK
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 11:23:43
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Really appreciate that twigman, but I should have stated that my budget is around £100 for the MB.
I already have a gfx card that I can use.
Can anyone reccomend a 1155 MB around £100 with FireWire?
cheers,
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 12:45:03
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That Gigabyte board I linked to is the cheapest P67 SandyBridge board with a TI firewire chipset built in that I have found so far. There are cheaper boards with VIA chipsets (Asus/MSi) but you wouldn't want a VIA chipset.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/28 12:54:04
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/29 03:19:53
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Thanks for taking the time to list those Twigman, As I'm not really an expert on components, I am reliant on other peoples experience. Unless there is a better alternative for around the same cash, I will be going with you suggestion of http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=3772#sp I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a 3+ Ghz I5 and I'm not really bothered about overclocking. the difference in price for a 2800 ghz and a 3+ Ghz is only around £15 so I might as well get the faster one and not overclock. Do I need to know anything about RAM for this motherboard? thanks again...
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/30 06:01:40
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Sorry, I have a new question...
As it looks like I'm going with the H67 MB I see it has onboard gfx.
I've seen it mentioned that unless for gaming the onboard GFX is fine. BUT, is it ok to use onboard GFX for a DAW and X1?
I'm sure I have seen it said that onboard GFX shouldn't be used for a DAW (I guess that kinda makes sense as you don't want anything other than the audio stuff taxing the CPU) but just want to make sure.
Appreciate any input? also on the RAM question above ^^
Thanks,
Sam.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/30 07:03:03
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http://download.gigabyte....ry_ga-h67a-ud3h-b3.pdf QVL for memory for that board personally I would get a PCIe graphics card myself....I have no experience of the GPU capability of the H67, perhaps someone else might?
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SilverfoxUK
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/03/30 08:36:25
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Thanks again Twig,
I was hoping to use my PCI old gfx card to keep cost down.
Hopefully someone else will chime in regarding onboard GFX...
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/03 03:56:47
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if you use Firewire audio interface, get Gigabyte, it's the only manufacture come with on board TI chipset IEEE 1394.
I myself using Intel 2600k + Gigabyte P67a-UD5-B3, it's pure power house. and the DPC latency is superior.
in windows 7 64bit with 16GB ram, the latency stand within 50 most of the time
only P67a-UD5-b3 and P67a-UD7-b3 come with on board TI firewire.
the P67A-Ud3 don't have firewire on board.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/18 12:41:55
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In my search for i7 2600K motherboards, I found these : H67 = with on board graphic, support up to 2 monitors P67 = no on board graphic Gigabyte GA-H67A-UD3H-B3 (on board graphic) Firewire (T.I. TSB43AB23 chip) : 1 from back panel, 2 from board header http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=3772#sp Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD5-B3 (no on board graphic) Firewire (T.I. TSB43AB23 chip) : 2 from back panel, 1 from board header http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=3762#sp Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 (no on board graphic) Firewire (T.I. TSB43AB23) : 2 from back panel, 1 from board header http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=3761#sp Intel DH67GD (on board graphic) Firewire (? T.I TSB43AB22A) : 1 from back panel, 1 from board header http://www.intel.com/p/en.../dsktpboards/db-dh67gd Intel DP67BG (no on board graphic) Firewire (T.I TSB43AB22A) : 1 from back panel, 1 from board header http://www.intel.com/p/en.../dsktpboards/db-dp67bg For intel board, the TI chipset is not listed on the spec (unlike the Gigabyte spec). It was spotted at this review : http://benchmarkreviews.c...mit=1&limitstart=4 I'd like to go with on board graphic, but I've no luck finding them at my area. The Gigabyte top end board is also beyond my budget, so I've ordered the Intel DP67BG (still waiting). I'll probably add the Radeon 5450 and Kingston Hyper X 1600 4x4G memory when the board arrives.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/18 15:55:58
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H67 = with on board graphic, support up to 2 monitors P67 = no on board graphic If you're looking for maximum performance, you want to use a P67a chipset motherboard. 
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/19 01:10:36
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Thanks Jim. I hope the Intel DP67BG is good (you did mention the P67'a', seems hinting on the Gigabyte board) ;)
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/19 08:36:17
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Sam, I see you may have settled on the MOBO.... however, back to your original question ....
I did a build in August last year. I based my build on the ASUS P7P55D MOBO with the i5 intel chip. It runs XP but is capable of W7. The MOBO has firewire in it and my Saffire loaded up perfectly and runs well.
There is a very marked improvement in performance over my original lappy (Dell) .... projects on the lappy run at 45% CPU same project in the new DAW easily under 12% or lower. I have tried to choke the new DAW by loading it with synths and heavy FX.... it just keeps on running. The CPU numbers were far from the choke point so I decided this was a good stable platform that would go the distance. I do not remember the track numbers or synth instances, but it was easily over twice what I normally use.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/19 13:16:25
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With the newer Intel chips featuring GPUs inside, it's kinda weird that some MOBOs with sockets for them don't support onboard graphics ports, while some do. It's also kinda complicated. It may help some folks to go to school here for a quick brushup (it helped me!). It's a bit of a Sophie's choice right now between the H67 and the P67. For the best of both worlds (onboard graphics AND flexibility) you could wait a little for the Z68 to come out (next month I read?). OR, you could just go P67 and buy a low-end graphics card. Seriously, a card to handle Win7, X1, and general DAW work should not cost more than $49 on sale (may be less if it's a blowout sale).
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/19 13:18:38
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One more thought: You're probably on teh right track going in the direction of Gigabyte. I've had good sucess with them on recent builds. I like their boards with 2oz copper and solid capacitor technologies.
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Re:Building new XI machine - Advice on Mother Board please...
2011/04/19 14:51:57
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I just built a new 1155 system using a P8P67 Asus with an i5 2500K. it does have Via 1394 chipset, but I already had a PCI firewire card with TI on it. so far my new system is working flawlessly.
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