tieske123
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Recording band in studio help needed
Hello guys, Next month i have to record a band. The setup is a guitarist a bass player another strumming guitarist and drummer. The keyboard parts and vocal will be recorded at home after the recordings. How can i setup all of this to make a good recording into Sonar. I have an external (usb) soundcard called Cakewalk Usb Audio Interface UA-1G I can plugin a mic and a guitar into it. how can i record everything to a single track to process everything at home. btw in the studio there will be a mixer (24 channels) Thanx in advanced
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VigilantSound
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 04:18:05
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Is this a real question? Your going to record an entire band in mono? At a "Studio"? Hopefully whatever studio your going to has a better Input method then a UA-G1....
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 04:46:33
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I read the OP carelessly, and need to write this again. Are you serious, Tieske, that in a studio you're going to, you must use your bedroom soundcard? If so, you don't have much options. You just need to mic everything properly and take the best takes you can. Micing drums alone would require several pages to describe, so don't expect to get the instructions here. And proper drum recording would require a stereo track, but as Vigilant implies, you can't do that with your setup, unless you take the drums from the mixer to the PCs line input, which is stereo. In such a case you might need to record the drums separately, though. You say all goes to one single track? Your soundcard can't create a stereo track so you'll need to do the stereo effect artificially later with some kind of stereoizers. Don't expect too much of it. Recording a band live is a demanding task. You do understand, that once you have it in your computer as one track, you can not mix it in any way, don't you? You can only EQ, compress and such. Unless you're very experienced engineers, don't expect to get a very high quality recording. One option would be recording every instrument separately. Then you can edit and mix them normally. Perhaps the mixer in the studio could also work as an audio interface?
post edited by Kalle Rantaaho - 2011/03/27 05:03:51
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Zonno
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 06:18:21
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Hi Tieske, If you want to, you can borrow my Phonic Helixboard 16 channel firewire mixer. So you can record separate tracks into SONAR. Then you'd need a DAW with a firwire interface. I live in Utrecht, you can PM me, if you want. Onno
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tieske123
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 12:16:01
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Zonno Hi Tieske, If you want to, you can borrow my Phonic Helixboard 16 channel firewire mixer. So you can record separate tracks into SONAR. Then you'd need a DAW with a firwire interface. I live in Utrecht, you can PM me, if you want. Onno He he thanx Onno i think the distance is to far i live near Maasticht :) I mean i want to record every track seperatly so i can engineer it afterwards to a propper mix. The whole band plays and i want 1 signal to record at eatch time.
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ricstudioc
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 12:44:16
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I mean i want to record every track seperatly so i can engineer it afterwards to a propper mix. The whole band plays and i want 1 signal to record at eatch time I know it seems like you've taken a lot of heat already, but what you're describing is as close to impossible as anything I've ever heard. 2 guitars, bass, and a drum set - and you want to record each instrument separately with a single input? Depending on how much you'd want to break down the drums, you'd be looking at no less than 4 (drums all at once, in mono) and maybe as many as 10 - 11 (each drum separately) run thrus of the song - and every single detail of every single take would have to be precise to the earlier passes, otherwise the mess you'd get from bleed would make your takes an uneditable mess. The musicians in question would have to be the finest to ever walk the planet - inhuman machines. Even working with a click (which you'd have to, in such a situation) tempo drift could kill you - and no musician plays a tune exactly the same way every time, always a little variation here and there. Start adding those little variations together, and you'd have audio chaos. Zonno's offer is your best shot, here - make the time to take him up on it. Seriously.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 13:45:53
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If you guys are so good that you can play one instrument at a time, then do it. It's not gonna be nice and easy if you're not experienced. But do you even have enough microphones to record the drums properly through the studios 24-channel mixer? And even if you do, the drums will end up on a mono track if you're tied to your soundcard. Ric, I really don't think they intend to record each drum kitpiece separately!! One instrument at a time is normal studio practice, but if the guys have never done it before, they'll face a really hard session.
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ricstudioc
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Re:Recording band in studio help needed
2011/03/27 14:10:00
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The whole band plays and i want 1 signal to record at eatch time Kalle - Well, the implication here is that the entire band will be playing each time - not just isolated overdubbing - and as I mentioned, there's a recipe for sonic stew. Even if they take the drums all at once, that's four passes, each with their own little variations and quirks - unless...... To the OP - can you convince the gtrs/bass players to come in direct - regardless of sound quality - while you track the drums first? Then the gtrs while you track the bass, and so on. They can do their own tracks with whatever they normally use - just while tracking someone else do they need to compromise their usual methods/equipment. And this assumes you have sufficient headphones and the ability to set up the cue mix. This would allow you to isolate each track, eliminate the potentials for track crosstalk and give you something you could work with in post-pro. I'm assuming here that you won't have separate isolation rooms available for each instrument, if you do this suddenly becomes much more doable. Depends on the studio's rooms, I suppose... And I agree with Kalle, consider using the PC's soundcard input for drum tracking, let you get them in stereo.
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